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Rytex That guy with the face from The Shadow Realm (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#1: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:36:41 PM

For those not aware, Worldbuilder's Disease is a sort of pattern of writing/showmaking where a lot of details about the world around them with almost nothing directly to do with the story being told being introduced around the main characters all the time. In short, the writer gets so caught up in his world-building within the story that he forgets to tell the story, or outright loses interest entirely.

I notice there's no article for it on the site that I can find, and it seems like a useful one to have. I was thinking it could be considered a YMMV, because it's not something we can prove, but can hypothesize about certain writers (e.g. George R R Martin and just how much he's writing about the world around A Song of Ice and Fire without actually making visible progress on that series, with such releases as The World of Ice & Fire and Fire & Blood there to show that he's still doing in-universe stuff with it).

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#2: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:40:15 PM

It's one of those "this is a well-known concept that we can't practically trope" things, IMO, as there's no way it wouldn't become yet another complaining page.

Rytex That guy with the face from The Shadow Realm (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#3: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:56:35 PM

Could make it a "No Real Life Examples" page, where all we do is document, with no explicit or even YMMV examples allowed, rather like Mary Sue and such.

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#4: Feb 20th 2020 at 1:24:08 PM

It's a trope in aggregate, only meaningful when reflected against the total body of work in a genre. It conveys no information about a work without bringing in external context. It almost certainly would not work as a trope.

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#5: Feb 20th 2020 at 1:44:26 PM

Definition-only, perhaps?

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#6: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:26:47 PM

There's at least It Gets Better (the story's pace being so slow to get to the actually interesting part)

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#7: Feb 20th 2020 at 4:59:43 PM

[up]That seems like a completely different concept.

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#8: Feb 20th 2020 at 6:27:13 PM

[up] definitely related, though. The writing may spend so much in the beginning to do Info Dump that the plot doesn't seem to start until later

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#9: Feb 20th 2020 at 10:57:27 PM

[up]It's a bit of a moot point because, again, I don't think this is worth troping (tbh so is It Gets Better but that's a different conversation) but I think that's actually pretty much the opposite of what the OP is talking about it. In a classic case of "Worldbuilder's Disease", the author starts with a pretty tightly-paced/fast work, but slows down as they go along and fall more in love with fleshing out the setting then telling the original story.

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#10: Feb 21st 2020 at 12:14:55 AM

[up] well yeah, that can happen too.

By the way, All There in the Manual is related, right?

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#11: Feb 21st 2020 at 11:23:33 AM

I think such things can be troped, but only with examples limited to justifications, lampshades, and Played for Laughs. That's the solution that has been applied to Most Common Superpower and other tropes in aggregate for which straight examples are undesirable.

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#12: Feb 21st 2020 at 11:51:54 AM

[up] That's why I suggested the Definition-Only page, as it's worth having it described somewhere, but having it be troped like normal can lead to bashing really quickly.

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#13: Feb 22nd 2020 at 12:13:28 AM

I think that a trope needs at least some examples for it to thrive, at least initially. Thus I would look for such unproblematic examples.

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