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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#17826: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:41:05 PM

"She moved on".

Which begs the question: Can people who are part of a Force dyad "move on"?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#17827: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:49:02 PM

I hope so.

I also don't want to see Rey dunk on Kylo after death.

Fuck him. He's dead. Even insulting him is acknowledging him too much.

And this is me, the guy saying they need to fix things saying this.

I mean, sure you get a bit of satisfaction out of it, and then what.

I'd rather we hear nothing about him until the writers figure out how they're going to fix the Skywalker legacy (since no one's buying Rey Skywalker at all).

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#17828: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:51:38 PM

I'd agree that if Rey ends up with Finn or anyone else in the future, the story shouldn't go out of its way to bring Kylo back into the story, especially if it's just to throw a shot at him. Imo, if your story has to space to can go out of its way just to throw in a Take That!, it's probably better served staying in its way to just keep building what it's got.

Which begs the question: Can people who are part of a Force dyad "move on"?

I would imagine so, but then TROS made force dyads right the hell up in the last twenty minutes so who knows what affect they have on the human body.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 18th 2022 at 7:53:18 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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#17829: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:51:53 PM

Currently, the bets are on Luke having a secret child.

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Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#17830: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:55:25 PM

[up]x3 Only way I'm seeing is them fix the Skywalker legacy is going with Lukes secret child. I mean they know the Skywalker name will bring in seats and after the ST they are going to want to something that will be sure to get people in seats and right now, if it isn't something from the High Republic then the only thing I can see is a secret Skywalker.

Edited by Mega_zxa on Jan 18th 2022 at 7:55:36 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#17831: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:55:36 PM

I'd rather we hear nothing about him until the writers figure out how they're going to fix the Skywalker legacy (since no one's buying Rey Skywalker at all).

Just establish that Luke and Leia did more than just establish a failed Order and have a failed political career, respectively. It's not like the ST was in any way concerned with fleshing out the galaxy or any of the characters with content and context.

There's more than enough room to say "also this happened in those thirty years."

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
FGHIK from right behind you Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#17832: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:56:23 PM

I assume they'll be doing something with Grogu in the future, don't know if they'd have the confidence to make him a main protagonist though.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#17833: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:57:39 PM

A Mandalorian Jedi Grogu. tongue

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#17834: Jan 18th 2022 at 7:59:33 PM

In another 30 years, Grogu’s barely going to have aged at all. Maybe babbling out a few words at most.

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#17835: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:01:29 PM

Which begs the question: Can people who are part of a Force dyad "move on"?

Well, they can if the author writes that they can!

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#17836: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:02:58 PM

[up][up] Granted it's unclear how Yoda's species actually ages. They might just hit a developmental spurt after 30 years or somesuch.

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Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#17837: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:03:20 PM

Only way I'm seeing is them fix the Skywalker legacy is going with Lukes secret child. I mean they know the Skywalker name will bring in seats and after the ST they are going to want to something that will be sure to get people in seats and right now, if it isn't something from the High Republic then the only thing I can see is a secret Skywalker.

Nah, the real solution is to have Rey actually be raised by Luke Skywalker enough to be considered his daughter. Yes, it would retcon the whole ST by far... but I don't see the problem with considering how ignorant Abrams was with the rest of the franchise.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#17838: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:07:15 PM

In another 30 years, Grogu’s barely going to have aged at all. Maybe babbling out a few words at most.

Species. Age. Differently. Why do people keep extrapolating human aging on Yoda's species if, for all we know, they might as well go through stages of metamorphosis?

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jan 18th 2022 at 5:08:46 PM

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Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#17839: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:08:33 PM

Hey, Grogu will still have 20 years left before he's able to train Jedi.

I mean, Master Yoda apparently started training Jedi when he was a hundred years old.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#17840: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:10:34 PM

Wait a minute didn’t Traviss write a Jedi getting knocked up by a Clone and then having her child raised as a Mandalorian Jedi?

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 18th 2022 at 8:10:43 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#17841: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:10:55 PM

But will he be more marketable as still a baby, or as Yoda 2.0 is what really decides the writing. tongue

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#17842: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:11:17 PM

[up][up]

Not canon and thank fuck for that.

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#17843: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:13:51 PM

Mandolorian Jedi just sounds like an oxymoron.

Better odds of a Sith Pureblood Jedi than that.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#17844: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:14:14 PM

[up][up] Yeah I know it’s not canon but I remember something to that effect happening and also the Jedi apparently being a Jesus elf though I may be thinking of another character there.

There was a Legends Jedi who basically looks like a fantasy elf.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 18th 2022 at 8:14:52 AM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#17845: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:15:17 PM

Only way I'm seeing is them fix the Skywalker legacy is going with Lukes secret child. I mean they know the Skywalker name will bring in seats and after the ST they are going to want to something that will be sure to get people in seats and right now, if it isn't something from the High Republic then the only thing I can see is a secret Skywalker.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the Skywalker name doesn't do jack except mildly catch people's attention for a few moments. Luke is what people liked. The Skywalker name only matters if Luke is attached to the front of it.

Edited by Parable on Jan 18th 2022 at 8:20:41 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#17846: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:17:05 PM

[up] This. Sort of.

We don't need a new secret Skywalker nobody's ever heard about to drop in and magically fix everything by font of being a good guy. We need upcoming ST stories to make better and more robust use of the characters the setting is already not doing a great job handling.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 18th 2022 at 8:17:32 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#17847: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:23:09 PM

Quoting this regarding a hypothetical “secret Skywalker”.

The only established resonance is what the Skywalker name means to the audience. That we have been following the Skywalkers as a “family saga” of sorts and as such, the name is significant to us. But even then, unlike many other Families within popular media, there has never really been an attempt to define what being a Skywalker means to any of the individuals within it. Everyone knows that a Lannister always pays their debts, or that only a Borgia can truly love a Borgia. These families and their names are significant not just because they are central to these big sweeping narratives, but also because their stories have given them an identity.

So yeah, I don’t think Star Wars need one.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#17848: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:23:47 PM

Mandolorian Jedi just sounds like an oxymoron.

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The reason I object to that Karen Traviss character is because he's ultimately just another product of Traviss' obsession with Mandalorians - he is great because he's Mandalorian, which excuses him also being a Jedi, just as his Jedi mother was one of the good ones for boinking a clone (Karen Traviss potrayed clones as basicallybeing honourary Mandalorians) - said mother also died defending "her" clones during Order 66 and then got killed by a Jedi - which apparently convinced the clones that Order 66 was justified.

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Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#17849: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:28:27 PM

If only we can rewrite Rey's entire character arc, and remove Starkiller Base from existence, then the ST setting would have a chance to actually get a good TV series.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#17850: Jan 18th 2022 at 8:30:48 PM

[up][up] Also one of the few instances of an actual justified Excalibur-Lightsaber.

Cause the Darksider is actually one of a kind with legitimate cultural importance.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 18th 2022 at 8:32:33 AM

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