Technically The Star Destroyer was an Old Republic Design dating back to the Mando wars 'The Centurion and Interdictor'
The Sith saw it as a viable warship and basically mooched the design while the OR basically kept making highly inefficient ship designs strictly to avoid association.
like the Valor or the tactical monstority that was the Inexpugnable
The OEU NR going Fuck the Sith, Fuck the Imps it was ours first and We're going to make them the symbol of Protection instead Oppression is something I really like.
Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Apr 9th 2020 at 10:58:43 AM
Okey the inexpungnable...the star fleet call, they said you could take that shit for yourself
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not""The point is, Star Destroyers are a symbol of the Imperial Navy and the NR should have something different."
Because the dagger-like designs look nice, they have a logical and efficient design, and they don't look ridiculous. Like the Legends Old Republic would have ships with these massive fins which would probably impede its own line of fire. And, let's be honest, the Mon Cal "iron dildo" ship design will always be ridiculous.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I mean the Bothan's and Mando's shared the same design principles
A Mando War Era Dreadnought, Kandosii-type / Ruthless when translated from Mando
Looks like a Giant Blaster Rifle
also looks like a giant gun...
Both follow the principle of set of guns strapped to an engine and a hyperdrive
This is Star Wars, where ship designs are rarely practical or tied to their narrative capability, or else the Millennium Falcon would've crashed long ago in one of those tight quarters chases because of its cockpit being so far off to the side.
Jaina did spruce the Falcon up...
Han complained about it to no end.
Han complains about everything, is his job.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Actually, the Corellian freighter design sort of builds on my previous point. There are some with centrally positioned cockpits and others with right or left-positioned cockpits. In open space, this wouldn't really matter, but you could imagine a pilot being nervous about rolling a YT-1300 (the Falcon, rightward cockpit) if he's only piloted a YT-1760 (central cockpit), because he would underestimate how much clearance he would need in a tight spot with the YT-1300. That's because the radius of the circle formed when a YT-1300 rolls is the width of the entire hull, but with the YT-1760, it's from the center of the ship to the side.
Like, that would make switching from one model of CEC freighter to another a nightmare in terms of handling.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."This is probably why Legends introduced the standardization and the new ships designed to support that standard.
And why the new canon’s Alphabet Squadron is so dumb.
It's probably not a whole lot different than operating an ocean vessel or construction equipment, which does not always have a centrally located piloting/navigation, and consider that cars themselves have steering wheels on different sides depending on the country. Damn You, Muscle Memory! is common even if you have a Universal Driver's License.
Thing is that the classic Star Destroyer may have been a sign of Imperial control, but putting different colors on captured or repurposed vessels is a long standing tradition and all part of regime changes. You don't torch a perfectly usable ship, and putting a smiley face on the side would do a lot to mitigate the history behind them. The prequels introducing friendlier looking Star Destroyers was a deliberate part of the visual design. Hell, imagine the First Order using meaner versions of Home One.
More Cthulu/Sith cultist would have done alot to give them some form of identity...
Hell We never see a Resurgent in a real battle.
Well, that's part of the inherent ridiculousness of treating starships as space cars. You don't usually make your car or your boat do a roll. Steering a car with the interface on one side is absolutely a muscle memory thing, but you don't generally pull cars into a roll. In that context, every single freighter would handle differently based on the shape of the hull and the alignment of the cockpit.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Apr 10th 2020 at 9:08:39 AM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Navigating in space would be 99% instrumentation anyway, Star Wars does use Space Is an Ocean for visual alignment, but other ships like Slave 1 (which lands on its back and the pilot likewise has to situate themselves accordingly while on a planet) acknowledge that orientation is relative. There are video games that replicate space flight in that forward momentum is not always based on alignment of the ship. I would imagine too that ships like a Corellian freighter were not intended for complex dog fighting or wiggling through tight spaces, so putting them into a roll in atmosphere is every bit as unnatural as doing so in a commercial airliner.
Today is Daisy Ridley's birthday! She read us a story today too.
Beep boops.
So can we talk about how great the work ethics of the Sith are?
Like shit, two Sith Lords took over the galaxy.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 12th 2020 at 6:17:01 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.They were already using an existing power structure, it doesn't count.
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Hey man, it takes a lot of work getting into a power structure. Imagine how difficult it was for Palpatine to become the SENATE!?
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.When ypu have nothing but Dark Magic and time, you can really surprise people.
Wake me up at your own risk.Two Sith? There was a revolving door of Sith and Sith-affiliates from the Naboo War onward.
Edited by Parable on Apr 12th 2020 at 8:32:31 AM
Remember the first and only reality of the Sith, there can only be two.
Like the inquisitors don't count as Sith, they are just force users attuned to the dark side, but not Sith.
And as the comic notes, Palpatine considered Vader to be his true apprentice. Maul was a means to an end, and Tyranus was a tool.
A random force user who does good could claim to be a Jedi, does it make them a Jedi?
Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 12th 2020 at 8:33:36 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.So then it's really two, actually four, and a bunch of people we're not going to count so that we can keep pretending it's two.
Palpatine is like Yzma from the Emperor's New Groove. She sticks around forever, but every few years she gets a new henchman.
Tell me this isn't a Sith Lord:
It's not like Tyranus and Vader were working for Sheev at the same time.
Sheev wanted the most powerful force user to eventually take his place as the Master as the Rule of Two dictates, hence the line about Darth Vader becoming more powerful than either of us in Revenge of the Sith.
There is more to the rule of two than having a minion, that minion must eventually become stronger than you and take your place.
Also Yzma is a better villain than Snoke.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 12th 2020 at 8:40:24 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.No, but they were still working for him and were still vital parts of his little game. The pieces got switched but the prior pieces weren't irrelevant to the process.
It, and I'm not trying to be rude, sounds less like "two Sith Lords took over the galaxy" and more "well, two Sith Lords were alive when it actually happened, just ignore every other Sith that was used as part of the process, they don't count because they're dead or have buggered off now. Also, our Arbitrary Rule we cling to centuries later when someone can argue that we don't need to stick to it anymore."
I'd also ask when Palpatine ever had any ideas about Vader betraying him. Because if Vader's supposed to be part of the Rule of Two, I'd like to know about how that part was going to happen.
I have some impression that Palps and Vader was not about the Rule of Two? Palps was never about that?
Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 12th 2020 at 8:46:45 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Then why not use Star Destroyer systems and such to build new ships? Or use some other source as a base or something, I dunno. The point is, Star Destroyers are a symbol of the Imperial Navy and the NR should have something different.
but HOW?