Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (spoilers obviously)

We say it get blown up twice the first time too...

Aww, but we just see an explosion where his body would be

Now we see the body itself get blown up.

So who knows, the first time it could have just been a dark side fart he let out when he fell.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll have him turn up in a comic tie-in where they abruptly kill him again and claim THIS time he's probably not coming back.

At least Dark Empire ended with him being dragged to Space Hell by an Order 66 survivor.

Well maybe next time he faces off against the spirit of Anakin in one final spectral dual with both their souls on the line.

I read a Legends fic where that happened but can't find it now :(

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people forget that Luke was proven wrong to go face Vader in ESB, and No Artoo only facilitated Luke's escape in ESB cause Vader is only able to home in on the Falcon cause they double back for Luke

Repeating it in ROTJ is to make you the audience think Luke is setting himself up for failure again

That's honestly a clever sort of subversion.

Wasn't the Didact just stuck in a Composer? One would think that if he wasn't supposed to come back, 343 would have found a more, uh, permanent way of ending him.

Ha. If it were in TLJ, people would be calling it bad writing.

Edited by EndlessSea on Mar 22nd 2020 at 8:13:04 AM

I forgot nothing of the sort. Like I said, Empire punishes Luke for doing the same thing that Return rewards him for. In Empire, ignoring the Masters and following his heart is a bad idea. In Return, ignoring the masters and following his heart saves the galaxy.

Luke taking what the Jedi have taught him but refusing to heed their counsel and doing what he wants to do instead is bad, right up until it's good. Luke doesn't change between the two films. It's the consequences for his actions that change.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 22nd 2020 at 8:18:15 AM

The Didact was... *inhales*

-zapped by half a dozen Composers, which is weird because he said in the Terminals that the Composer doesn't affect him and we actually see him in Halo 4 standing right in the middle of the Composer's beam, maybe it actually takes several to affect him, no idea why he didn't just try that, and then the lead writer claimed in the Library Edition that he wasn't composed, but regardless he hasn't been seen again since and our only real fight with him was a quick-time event during a cutscene. *exhales*

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 22nd 2020 at 7:17:22 AM

Bear in mind, Luke's reasons for disobeying the Jedi in Empire and Return are different. In Empire it's because he can't sit still and wants to run off to chop off Vader's head right now, not knowing the truth about him. In Return, Luke knows the truth about Vader and the Jedi, and so wants to hold himself back from killing him unlike his prior impulses.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 22nd 2020 at 7:20:01 AM

Act against your teacher's counsel only when you do know better, otherwise it will end badly for you.

One can argue that part of the message of the Bespin thing was Obi wan and Yodas flaws as much as Luke's. As they didn't tell him that vital information. Wich led to him training himself.

The false equivalence between what Luke does in TESB vs ROTJ is enormous here. Just being able to draw broad comparisons between situations doesn't mean they are the same, it's why you tell a five year old not to play with matches but not adults. And the circumstances and outcome are factually wrong. In TESB Luke rushes to face Vader despite Yoda and Obi-Wan warning him not to, in ROTJ he refuses to confront Vader again despite them telling him that's where his path is leading, and he only decides to do so after a LONG period of contemplation (the end of the Jabba sequence all the way to the Ewok village). In other words, their advice proved to be the option that leads to victory, if maybe not the way they thought. Luke is the quintessential example of The Hero's Journey but it's also a rather simple story of a boy becoming an adult.

That is true, Luke does spend a good portion of the movie clearly NOT wanting to face Vader

Since we could all use a laugh or two, here’s the Honest Trailer for ROS -

It says something that Epic Voice Guy sr. doesn't cameo.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 24th 2020 at 10:56:12 AM

Called it, kinda, that there’d be total agreement about the movie this time.

When you try to please everyone, you wind up pleasing no one.

Especially in such a fractured fanbase like Star Wars.

Six Captain Phasmas works pretty well for the Knights of Ren.

Edited by alekos23 on Mar 24th 2020 at 10:12:49 AM

Phasma almost killed 2 of the heroes and was actually beating Finn before he surprise attacked her

So yes

Phasma does more then the knights of Ren

If anything the Knights of Ren are probably the biggest disappointment I had in Rise of Skywalker specifically, rather than the whole sequel trilogy.

Like if they couldn't be bothered to give them any sort of character, the least they could have done is give them a good fight scene.

The throne guys have virtually no character yet people love those guys cause ya know good fight choreography.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 24th 2020 at 7:58:36 AM