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This is a thread for checking up on pages for works that have not been released yet, to make sure that they are not straying into rampant speculation or posting crazy behind the scenes spoilers. You can bring both individual examples or entire pages to attention here.

In extreme cases, any page can be locked, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

(As these pages often are hit with zero-context examples and shoehorning as well, all four - speculation, spoilers, ZCEs, and shoehorning may get addressed simultaneously.)

The policy governing this effort is Creating A Work Page For An Unreleased Work. Cleanup is being tracked using the Unreleased Works sandbox.

All pages for unreleased works should include a %% comment at the top of the page, confirming the policy and linking to this thread and the Administrivia page. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the example provided here, but this provides a template to work with.

     Template for the unreleased work comment 
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%% Speculative troping is not allowed on TV Tropes.
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%% We trope what DOES happen in works, not what MIGHT happen or is LIKELY to happen.
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%% For unreleased works where all we have to go on is advertising and other supplemental materials, we have some detailed guidelines, which can be found at Administrivia/CreatingAWorkPageForAnUnreleasedWork.
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%% NOTE - these rules also mean that unreleased works should only have one page image, and that image should NOT be changed again until the work is released.
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%% If you have questions, please consult the Unreleased Work Speculation Cleanup thread at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15514631230A64268600
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%% Thank you.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 10th 2024 at 8:16:52 PM

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#301: Apr 8th 2019 at 10:31:13 PM

[up] Got it. Understood.

Edited by gjjones on Apr 8th 2019 at 1:31:28 PM

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#302: Apr 9th 2019 at 5:43:48 AM

Incidentally, did something happen Star Wars-wise, or was the page only just cut? This is the third request (the other to are ATT threads) asking for the page to be remade in the course of one day, and, far as I know, the page has been cut for a little while now.

Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#303: Apr 9th 2019 at 6:22:10 AM

[up] It's been cut for a few weeks or something like that, but as was previously said, I'd wait for a trailer to come out before recreating the page.

Edited by Albert3105 on Apr 9th 2019 at 6:22:38 AM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#304: Apr 9th 2019 at 6:28:53 AM

21st March, far as I can tell. As has been said, not really any point recreating until we have a trailer.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#305: Apr 9th 2019 at 6:30:21 AM

My question was more about why I saw three separate requests to restore the page in a single day and what might have prompted it, not with why it was cut in the first place nor requesting to restore it myself.

Between the fact we don't even have a title for it yet and all the grief we've seen from The Last Jedi, I'm fine keeping this one on the back burner long as possible.

Edited by sgamer82 on Apr 9th 2019 at 7:32:59 AM

snivyTsutarja Since: May, 2018
#306: Apr 9th 2019 at 11:47:12 AM

Star Wars Celebration Chicago will start this week, and there's a possibility of trailers for other Star Wars works such as The Clone Wars Season 7, Fallen Order, The Mandalorian and so forth. When we have trailers for those, can we also make pages too?

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#307: Apr 9th 2019 at 1:10:08 PM

[up] As long as you can find three valid tropes from publicly-known information, then you can make a page.

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Jesse220 Since: Jan, 2019
#308: Apr 10th 2019 at 5:46:44 PM

Excuse me, but can anyone restore Star Wars 9 please?

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#309: Apr 10th 2019 at 6:02:43 PM

[up] Was any new material actually revealed at Star Wars Celebration Chicago?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#310: Apr 10th 2019 at 6:09:09 PM

Such as, for instance, the title of the page you want to restore.

Edited by sgamer82 on Apr 10th 2019 at 7:09:18 AM

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#311: Apr 10th 2019 at 7:59:51 PM

[up] In the very unlikely case that we have three tropes but not a title, what should we do?

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#312: Apr 10th 2019 at 8:01:53 PM

[up] Sandbox it?

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snivyTsutarja Since: May, 2018
#313: Apr 10th 2019 at 9:01:20 PM

The IX panel won't be until this Friday at Celebration Chicago.

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#314: Apr 10th 2019 at 9:18:12 PM

The E3 2019 festival will start this June 11 and will last until the 13th and the Tokyo Game Show will be from September 12 through the 15th (hint: it's also the month of my birthday). We know that there will definitely be a Sega panel.

Maybe we might have some more information on games like Shin Sakura Wars by then.

Edited by gjjones on Apr 10th 2019 at 12:19:29 PM

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#316: Apr 12th 2019 at 3:12:34 AM

It's a stub, but we might as well just wait it out since it comes out in four days.

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#317: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:10:34 AM

According to the panel from the Star Wars Celebration, the official title for Episode IX is The Rise of Skywalker. The teaser trailer is available from the live panel stream on Youtube.

Now, I think it's safe to restore all of the content that was previously deleted from the Star Wars 9 page and transplant it over to The Rise of Skywalker.

Edited by gjjones on Apr 12th 2019 at 1:13:57 PM

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#318: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:14:24 AM

I'm fine with restoring the page as long as there's no speculation and the tropes are only about what happens in the trailer.

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#320: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:19:10 AM

And it was cutlisted again.

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#321: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:19:57 AM

[up] With just four words. That's not how to do it.

Read this page How to Create a Work's Page please.

snivyTsutarja Since: May, 2018
#322: Apr 12th 2019 at 10:24:29 AM

My bad. I'll keep that in mind next time.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#323: Apr 12th 2019 at 11:01:18 AM

We still need three non-speculation tropes though. The trailer is kind of vague but there may well be something

Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#324: Apr 12th 2019 at 11:29:30 AM

There are already some problematic tropes

  • Alliterative Title: Not within itself, but overall it's the third Star Wars trilogy capper to start with a word that has "R" as first letter. Sounds like shoehorning
  • The Bus Came Back: Emperor Palpatine returns to the film series after being absent from The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi.Speculation. ALL we get in the trailer is Papa Pelp's Evil Laugh
  • Time Skip: As per Word of God from the director J.J. Abrams, the movie picks up "some time" after the events of The Last Jedi, rather than being an Immediate Sequel as The Last Jedi was. Based on a creator's comment, not what we get from the trailer.

ashlay Since: Apr, 2011
#325: Apr 12th 2019 at 12:09:05 PM

[up]For The Bus Came Back, Ian Mcdiarmid came up on stage right after the premiere of the trailer at the event, they've rehired him.

For Time Skip, we can add the rebuilt lightsaber and Expository Hairstyle Change on Finn if you'd like, but Word of God where a creator says a particular trope is in the work they have helped create is about as clear in terms of intent as you can get.

Edited by ashlay on Apr 12th 2019 at 3:09:15 PM


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