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RustBeard Since: Sep, 2016
#1: Dec 16th 2018 at 10:54:11 PM

So tropers seem to use Genre-Busting and Genre Mashup interchangeably, using them whenever a work combines elements from multiple genres. As I understand it, the difference is Genre Mashup refers to when a work combines two or more genres, whereas Genre-Busting is where a work doesn't fit into one genre. However, I'm a bit confused as to what it means for a work to not fit into a single genre. Does it mean that the work could belong to multiple different genres? If that's the case, then how's that different from Genre Mashup? Or does a work that doesn't fit into a genre mean that the work avoids standard genre conventions? This makes more sense to me, but would that mean a Deconstruction counts as Genre-Busting? Using this definition, could a work that uses tropes from another genre or medium be considered Genre-Busting?

Edited by RustBeard on Dec 16th 2018 at 10:57:26 AM

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#2: Dec 17th 2018 at 3:15:17 AM

Genre Mashup is an expansion of Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly and was created from this TRS thread. Genre-Busting is about works breaking new grounds instead of just combining genres. New grounds could mean not using established patterns or creating a new set of tropes.

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#3: Dec 17th 2018 at 9:41:48 AM

Yeah, Genre-Busting works are sometimes a Trope Maker or Unbuilt Trope version of a new genre. Other times, they are simply difficult to classify in any genre, being too weird (Katamari Damacy comes to mind).

That TRS thread never quite finished, and there is still a lot of misuse on the wiki, so you will see plenty of examples that are really Genre Mashup claiming to be Genre-Busting.

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#4: Dec 17th 2018 at 1:41:37 PM

How is Genre Mashup and Mix And Match different?

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#5: Dec 19th 2018 at 2:42:05 AM

Not sure. It claims that the combination of genres creates a new genre, something that's not implied by Genre Mashup but the example list does not go along with that idea.

ShawnRi Since: Nov, 2016
#6: Dec 23rd 2018 at 7:56:34 PM

So if Genre-Busting is about a work that breaks new ground or gives rise to new tropes, could something be considered Genre-Busting retroactively? Let's say a work gets released and at the time it's considered a standard example of whatever genre it is. However, later writers copy this work and this gives rise to a sub-genre or new tropes. Would that now count as Genre-Busting?

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#7: Dec 23rd 2018 at 9:37:38 PM

That would be the more common usage of it I think.

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#8: Dec 24th 2018 at 6:19:38 PM

There's From Clones to Genre.

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