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TwinBird Dunkies addict from Eastern Mass Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#551: Jan 11th 2019 at 8:34:19 PM

I do think he might be a Self-Disposing Villain, not due to the kids' sense of mercy, but the Gaston parallel. Plus, Blake might still have too much of a soft spot left in her for him.

Of course, Yang on the soundtrack has made quite clear what she would like to do to him, and that one was vetted unlike the one about what she'd like to do to Blake.

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gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
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#552: Jan 11th 2019 at 8:41:57 PM

I'm thinking for the last two episodes, when RWBY Rewind shows their first look trailer and the title has been announced, we should start troping the episodes. Thoughts?

Edited by gjjones on Jan 11th 2019 at 11:42:13 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#553: Jan 11th 2019 at 8:47:41 PM

Isn't the common rule not to trope anything until it's out for everyone, excluding subpages.

Either way, I'd say no because that gets into troping something that's not out to anyone yet, and I've seen too many instances of that causing issues on Ask The Tropers (primarily for YMMV pages, but still think it's potentially more trouble than it's worth)

gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
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#554: Jan 11th 2019 at 8:49:16 PM

[up] Indeed, troping the YMMV pages before release has caused issues in the past.

About my suggestion, I was actually referring to the recap pages, which are subpages, of course. I think for the last few chapters of volume 6 and the entirety of the next volume, we should use the approach taken on the recap pages when Star Wars: Rebels aired, such as adding tropes from the trailers.

Edited by gjjones on Jan 11th 2019 at 12:07:46 PM

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#555: Jan 12th 2019 at 1:19:36 AM

Cap: the chararter dont but the narrative clearly does, just look how roman was disposed in the end by is own petart like that, you just need the narrative to clear you out and there is way to do that.

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TwinBird Dunkies addict from Eastern Mass Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#556: Jan 12th 2019 at 8:19:15 AM

...so let's get the obvious joke out of the way...

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#557: Jan 12th 2019 at 8:44:10 AM

[up][up] That might just be Ruby though, which makes sense given she's a Wide-Eyed Idealist. it's not necessarily going to be the case for Blake and especially for Yang, who is probably the most likely to end up killing him.

Anyway, the battle this episode was by far the strongest post-Monty fight.

CryoJNik He who holds fandoms in contempt from At the edge of tomorrow Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#558: Jan 12th 2019 at 8:48:20 AM

...Did they literally brand SOL on Adam's face?

Also I think Platinum Games has a branch in Remnant.

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Slater130 Since: Jun, 2013
#559: Jan 12th 2019 at 8:49:30 AM

the brand is "SDC"

That's actually a really nice tie-in for when they go to Atlus

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#560: Jan 12th 2019 at 8:49:59 AM

They managed to sink Bumblebee at the same time as they made it all but canon. Nice. Also, finally seeing Adams face. His chances of living through this volume are very little now if even that has been shown. Also a lot of good fighting this episode.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#561: Jan 12th 2019 at 9:06:06 AM

[up][up] Atlas; Atlus is a video game publisher primarily associated with JRPGs.

@Slater130: Yep. That implies he was literally a slave at one point, which is sad in a way, but the way they've handled Adam doesn't leave much room for Sympathy for the Devil; since his first appearance in the series proper he's been kicking dogs left and right with no remorse or softer moments.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 12th 2019 at 12:11:54 PM

CryoJNik He who holds fandoms in contempt from At the edge of tomorrow Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#562: Jan 12th 2019 at 9:25:56 AM

Ah. It looked like SOL on my screen, which still fits in a way. Small note about the fight, everyone was actually involved in a meaningful way

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#563: Jan 12th 2019 at 9:30:44 AM

[up] Yep; and thank God for that; in contrast to how the Haven fight was a complete mess, characters were actually doing something for the most part.

Even better, we actually get to see Jaune being strategic; fans had already worked out the mech was probably for fighting large coastal Grimm rather than small, fast moving targets, and consequently the best move was for everyone to spread out and attack from multiple angles.

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#564: Jan 12th 2019 at 12:47:00 PM

I do like Adam getting another parallel with Magneto with the eye brand.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#565: Jan 12th 2019 at 1:19:20 PM

[up] Yep, and if he's going to die here it'll feel like a waste for him to get some more character at the very end, but at the same time there's nothing else to be done with his character; he's served his role in Blake and Yang's character arcs, and he no longer has a place in the narrative with the White Fang subplot seemingly being put to rest.

In a way he's the poster boy for the issues with the White Fang subplot. If you want a villain to seem tragic, you generally need to hit home how tortured and broken they are or have them show some redeeming features before having them Kick the Dog as hard as Adam did in his debut.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 12th 2019 at 4:26:49 AM

TwinBird Dunkies addict from Eastern Mass Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#566: Jan 12th 2019 at 1:23:38 PM

I actually thought it was 666, and this was meant as something meaningful only to the audience, like that movie where Haman wears a swastika.

Seriously, though, I'd gotten the impression from the party that it was a sort of subtle, structural racism, not Jacques freaking branding people.

Anyway, I'm glad at least they've fixed the subtitles. Those got wicked bad a few episodes ago.

Also, part of me wants to find a community of non-FIRST Spoiler Hounds and tell them that Bumblebee has been officially sunk. I wonder if there's anywhere I could do that...?

Edited by TwinBird on Jan 12th 2019 at 1:27:33 AM

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#567: Jan 12th 2019 at 1:31:22 PM

Seriously, though, I'd gotten the impression from the party that it was a sort of subtle, structural racism, not Jacques freaking branding people.

I think that's meant to be the case in Vale and Vaccuo. Haven in contrast displays more overt Jim Crow south style racism with the whole "No Faunus allowed" signs, even if its probably not condoned by Haven's government given the presence of Lionheart in a major position of power.

Then we have Atlas where things are so bad that there's slavery; probably masquerading as "indentured servitude" since slavery was officially banned after the Great War.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 12th 2019 at 4:33:23 AM

TwinBird Dunkies addict from Eastern Mass Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#568: Jan 12th 2019 at 1:39:56 PM

The party I'm referencing was in Atlas, though.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#569: Jan 12th 2019 at 1:44:18 PM

[up] Ah. Yeah, I forgot about that part of volume 5. And most of that volume because it rather bad IMO, with a few highlights like the Ruby/Oscar heart to heart that was pretty much the first time we've seen Ruby show some emotional vulnerability.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 12th 2019 at 4:52:28 AM

Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#570: Jan 12th 2019 at 3:07:56 PM

The brand aside, isn't it kind of ironic that Adam has blue eye(s)? As in, the eye color that is unique to humans amongs all the species?

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TwinBird Dunkies addict from Eastern Mass Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#571: Jan 12th 2019 at 3:16:26 PM

...wait, what? Since when?

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#572: Jan 12th 2019 at 3:21:49 PM

[up] Blue eyes are genuinely quite rare among mammals; there are cats and dogs with blue eyes, and plenty of non-mammals with blue eyes, but there's only one other species of primate with such a phenotype. Not sure where [up][up] got the idea of it being unique to humans though.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Jan 12th 2019 at 6:24:06 AM

Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#573: Jan 12th 2019 at 3:23:55 PM

[up][up]Well not quite, there are specimen with blue pigmentation, but it is something of an anomaly. Point is, I heard many people believing that this is the case.

Edited by Tharkun140 on Jan 12th 2019 at 12:24:06 PM

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#574: Jan 12th 2019 at 3:29:22 PM

Should we give Adam the Villain Has a Point trope given, well, you know, his eye!?

Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#575: Jan 12th 2019 at 3:34:09 PM

Eh, we probably shouldn't. Adam's stated goals are to enslave humanity due to the faunus being supposedly superior and to punish Blake for opposing him. His past suffering doesn't really come into that. It is a strong argument for removing his Complete Monster entry, but that's something better discussed at the main thread once the episode publically comes out.

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