RWBY Spoilers Thread

She’s definitely not dead as Rooster Teeth has a rule against killing people via falling off cliffs. They did it with the Meta and had dealt with theories for years that he survived, and Miles was only allowed to do it with Felix because he wrote a ironclad sign that he died.

And that's a lot to drop on the audience. We're only through 2 to 3 of the 4 big places on Remnant (Vale, Mistral, Atlas, Vacuo). Dropping us off on another planet or somewhere not on Remnant would be... unexpected.

Occam's Razor. The void was implied to be dangerous as the magical architect warned them not to fall in. Yang fell in and nobody saved her, and we saw an explosion of gas/dust that looked like what we saw when Pyrrha died, like when a person's Aura breaks.

I'd have to wager she died.

Granted this could be a massive Red Herring like with Weiss getting impaled back in Volume 5 but... I would really hope not. I would hope this isn't an excuse to reintroduce Salem. We already have enough mysteries without introducing not-Remnant to the mix.

TLDR - I hope this sticks.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

If they want to cut out the middleman, Yang might be presumed dead (I mean, I think most people on site would assume so) and just... straight up disappear from merchandise, promotionals, and the story until some climactic moment of the next volume where she's shown returning - but as a changed person, and not in a "had off-screen character development" kind of way.

Perhaps that void is related to the between-worlds where Ozma and GOL had their chat, and that's where Yang ends up. Ambrosius said he can't revive the dead, but if Yang fell into this weird afterlife while still being alive, then there's a loophole for her to re-emerge.

How do lizards fly?

Then we have some 10 to 20 others who can re-emerge as well. Then Ambrosius's whole thing is still needlessly ominous and Team RWBY should have asked him to clarify.

"Yeah if you fall in you end up in purgatory but it's totally escapable just kind of annoying, it's the metaphysical equivalent of locking your keys inside of the car."

Escaping from the void is the only way to get into Beacon's vault.

How would Yang be a "changed person" but not go through off-screen character development. You mean like a hair color change, or getting her arm back.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

Vegeta was a prick at times, and he was a bastard, but in his case he was a prince from a Proud Warrior Race who's ideals weren't exactly built on morals. I could at least understand why he was so arrogant, cruel and ruthless. Catra is also a complicated example I don't really have clear feelings on so I'm gonna skip that one.

And while yes she wasn't always evil and her backstory is sad. It only elicits sympathy for KID CINDER, not for adult Cinder. Present Cinder is, to put it bluntly, a sadistic bitch who murders people with a smug grin on her face. She killed who knows many students or other innocents with the Fall of Beacon just so she could use the chaos to kill Amber and obtain the entirety of the Fall Maiden Powers. She would get millions of people dead if she could have that sweet, sweet power. She's a horrible human being who to me, deserves to burn in Hell, if only for the cruel irony. I'm sorry but her backstory came too little too late for me to even give two shits about Cinder as it is now. She's a monster who is just as bad as the Madame was.

I mean they just abruptly killed off Jacques so I wouldn't exactly put it pass the show to do that. Honestly I don't see any potential in Cinder as she is now. She's not sympathetic enough for a redemptive route to work to me, she's not threatening enough for me to actually take her seriously as an antagonist anymore and she's too flat to me to really feel invested in her character. I'm just past the point of even caring about whatever Cinder does.

I mean, it's escapable if you know you can escape and have the means to do so. Currently the only such means would be the Staff, but Yang would have to somehow communicate to the rest of her team that she's not dead first.

And I was thinking some kind of physical change. Magic residue or what have you. Blake's allusion is The Beauty and the Beast, and she's currently lacking the latter part, so...

This is mostly spitballing wild theories at the moment.

Killing off a tertiary antagonist who's long served his purpose (and you could even make up some symbolism for how killing Jacques pertains to the Fall of Atlas) isn't exactly the same as killing one of the main characters. I would probably not hate it if Yang was confirmed dead (although I vaguely recall RT confirming deaths in Red v. Blue only to be a straight-up lie), but I think we'll see her yet.

Edited by FergardStratoavis on Mar 23rd 2021 at 8:45:26 PM

How do lizards fly?

Adam says hi.

Adam was stabbed twice and smashed off a rock. The fall didn't kill him, he was dead before he hit the water. Meta and Felix literally died from falls.

Actually the Meta died from drowning

Good pickup.

Point being that Miles had to include a instant verification of Felix's death by RT in order to kill him off via dropping into a bottomless pit. While over in RWBY of the two people who fell one was stabbed through the chest twice and smashed face first into a rock, while the other survived. So already bottomless pits have a not so great batting average for actually killing people.

I think that's splitting hairs and ignoring that they generally have cliffs kill characters that fall off of them with a single exception, but so as not to put too fine a point on this and loosen any possible tension, if Yang survives this because the void transports you somewhere, I will allow any one here to suggest a ridiculous name for my next RWBY DND character and roleplay through the shame.

...still backing my theory that the Goldilocks Diabolus ex Machina coming true, but Yang turning into a beastly Faunus and having wolf children with Blake is also something I can get behind.

Edited by FOFD on Mar 23rd 2021 at 2:11:58 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

Also I read about this Tidbit

"He further comments that Adam and Blake are a little bit of both Beauty and Beast."

....I know Blake is a little bit of both but what exactly is Beauty-ish about Adam?

Edited by Snoketrope on Mar 23rd 2021 at 2:20:05 AM

The First man

Wyld: Great analysis, one thing: I feel this is the oposite of what happen to ironwood: while ironwood incapacity to trust make imposible to do something, were the wild idea to save everyone is shot down because is too mucha nd in their rush to do something they let themselves open.

If intersting how both stuff as undermine by cinder both times.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Playing devil's advocate, but remove the scar and Adam actually isn't that bad looking physically. His fashion sense is another story, but he isn't exactly bad looking, it's just his personality that makes him a monster.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Mar 23rd 2021 at 6:11:18 AM

Vegeta: I'm back bitches!

Is first suit also make him look rather elegant as he was a prince of sorts.

One can see is alegory of Adam being revolucionary until he turn into that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

His ideology may have been "beautiful" to Blake.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

To play devil's advocate on the redemption stuff, someone bought up Precure a couple of weeks ago and they have certainly redeemed and at the very least given sympathetic send offs to villains who did, or at least tried to do worst things than a lot of RWBY villains did. Hell Noise more less had the same goal as Salem, to end his own cursed existence, even if he has to drag everyone else down with him.

Now obviously Precure is a very different show to RWBY, but it does show its not impossible to redeem villains with that kind of stuff on their hands.

I don't think RWBY will or should, but you get my point.

Edited by Gaogaigar54 on Mar 23rd 2021 at 3:49:15 AM

Oh no I agree I thought he was hot myself. Was just wondering if there was any sort of Belle-esqe elemants to him.

I've personally grown to like less 'Easy' redemptions more.

The First man

It's wild to me that we're barely on Tuesday because it feels like longer since the episode. I've already prepared my finale bingo card◊ and everything.

...why would anyone stay behind in Atlas when the refugees are not only in Vacuo, but the entire city is, ya know, falling?

Vegeta: I'm back bitches!

Plenty of prime real estate and scrap materials. Just have to survive the frezing cold and Grimm. Joking Mode of course .

Not willingly, but if someone uses the Staff again before the evacuation is fully complete, then the portals would close, and anyone still on Atlas might be stuck. Robyn and Qrow have their hands full trying to stop the bomb, they might not have the time to go through.

Winter's currently fighting her military dad and one of them is definitely dying. Whitley, Willow and Klein haven't gone through the portals yet because we'd certainly have seen them see Weiss fighting. We don't know where Pietro or Maria are - still on Amity, or did they get off at some point? Watts is still in Atlas central command - and there's been some speculation that maaaaybe Cinder welded the doors shut or something so he couldn't get out.

There's also been some speculation that the White Fang led by Ghira, or Mistral forces, or others, might come to Atlas' aid, ala Rohan answering Gondor's call - and if so, we'd probably have some characters left behind to see that help really has come, and that Ruby's attempt to warn the world wasn't in vain.

There's a lot of moving pieces here, anything's possible. And also, I named it an Overly Specific Bingo for a reason.

Edited by Crinias on Mar 23rd 2021 at 7:48:19 AM

FOFD, I think you're kind of dismissing the less-than-subtle hints about some sort of weird Journey about to happen.

Yang's fate is clearly not death, and the dramatic tension comes from wondering where the hell she ended up.

Here's the pieces floating around at the moment:

• Miles has describes Volume 9 as a "Detour" and something very different. He's also mentioned that Volume 9 was something they planned even before Volume 1 was released. (The other big thing they had planned even before V1 was the Apathy, so.....)
• The Opening shows Team RWBY falling through the tundra into a place with golden lights.
• "The Girl that fell through the world", the fairy tale introduced this volume in Oscar and Ozpin's discussions. It seems to be an Alice in Wonderland parallel.
• Yang's birthday is the release date for Disney's Alice in Wonderland.
• Ambrosius gave two warnings concerning the portal realm, which they explicitly based on the Vaults. A place that isn't on Remnant, somewhere separate that could only be reached by special means. He gave the first warning of them being either very clever or very foolish for this idea. And then he warned them not to fall.
• Yang disappears in golden light, ala the opening. (She's also the first to fall in the opening.)

All signs point not to death, but rather that our destination for Volume 9 is going to be weird as hell. Yang and anyone else that joins her are going to end up somewhere beyond Remnant, perhaps the same place from the fairy tale. (As Oz likes to base them on real events....)

Of course, I've seen people speculate all over that this may not be Alice in Wonderland so much as Through the Looking Glass. After all, that's the one with a heavy Chess motif and specifically a black kitten as part of Alice's journey. (It's also the Jabberwocky, which would make one hell of a villain for the volume.)

Edited by harostar on Mar 23rd 2021 at 8:29:16 AM

Maybe the heroes will end up in the past or future?

He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.

Please no, I hated when Voltron did that in it's final season.

Honestly I'm not looking forward to V9 if that's the case. RWBY has never exactly had steller pacing, so putting the rest of the story on hold for an entire volume, for that kind of detour sounds like a really bad idea to me.

Edited by Gaogaigar54 on Mar 23rd 2021 at 5:55:11 AM