RWBY Spoilers Thread

Salem demanded makeovers for the whole team, before they rolled up on Atlas.

Though I'm amused at the idea of Mercury with his zipper pants, which mean he could make them shorts if need be?

More Thoughts:

• The sheer irony of Ironwood killing a long-time associate in cold blood with a weapon called "Due Process".
• Winter's new look is clearly medical gear + Atlas combat armor. But it also feels very.....symbolic of how she's trapped and bound into the role of Ironwood's loyal right-hand woman. While her hair is in a loose ponytail instead of that tight bun, she's wearing gear that is essentially a harness and brace strapped to her body. As much as she told Weiss she's carving her own path, Winter is trapped in another cycle with a controlling father figure.
• The Happy Huntresses are just running that entire show with ZERO logistics support or equipment. It's clear this has probably been their reality for a long time, but now having to do it without Robyn.
• I love the contrast of the Ace-Ops in the two openings. In last volume's opening, we got Clover catching his badge before they all appeared. Now, we have him dropping it with them appearing along with Qrow. I'm curious about the focus on Harriet and Qrow, and what it will mean for them this volume.
• Someone pointed out the parallels of Ruby falling in the opening to Salem's swan dives into the Pools.
• OKAY I AM KINDA TERRIFIED what if this pattern repeats with Vacuo like is Theodore gonna fuck them over too??? A world tour of Ozpin's bad decisions?

Edited by harostar on Nov 7th 2020 at 10:22:29 AM

Your yearly reminder that First Members viewing is a thing and people need to stop troping episodes that haven't been released to the general public.

Seriously, we've got people like Vsquared_42 coming out of the woodworks and doing exactly the same shit that I'm judging will get them suspended after enough offenses.

Edited by AnoBakaDesu on Nov 7th 2020 at 11:01:56 AM

Uh, oh.

Will Scarlatina is a man; the Happy Huntresses are, well, Huntresses. The name "Will Scarlatina" definitely seems deliberate, but at the same time, none of the Happy Huntresses (except maybe Robyn) have names so on the nose. He probably does have some connection, though, and may well turn up this volume, but we're definitely going to be seeing a change to Winter, most of the Happy Huntresses really only share initials, and Winter's are W.S. It may even have been planned from the start.

Edited by TwinBird on Nov 7th 2020 at 11:09:57 AM

I am definitely curious about that, since I doubt they would drop a cameo of a dude with a Robin Hood-related name that is working on a top-secret project in Atlas for Ironwood.....and have him not show up.

The question is whether he's associated with Robin, Pietro, or doing something else. We know he's an Engineer, so might have gotten sent to work on Amity?

Ironwood nooooooo You went full villain. Why did you go full villain. You beautiful, bearded bastard!

Twas the beard that made him evil! He was still good before he grew that Beard of Sorrow!

Don't believe me?! Read this excerpt from Fanfic/TheRWBYLoops where the ''true'' evil takes over!

Edited by RebelFalcon on Nov 7th 2020 at 11:49:43 AM

Theodore's portrayal in the novels was generally positive...Though if he does turn out to be another fuckup, I'm betting he'll be a Fearless Fool who throws caution to the wind and gets everyone under him killed by picking a fight he can't hope to win. As much as this is a Hope Punk story, there's a middle ground where you can say "maintaining hope is crucial, but not sufficient for victory, and is no substitute for careful planning and sensible tactics."

I noticed that immediately.

So basically Fanon!Ozpin.

So far both of the headmasters are a Foil to Oz where they've gone down a particular dark path that could have potentially befallen Ozpin.


Lionheart is who Oz would have become if he'd never mustered the courage to confront Salem about the increasingly brutal measures she was taking in "their" mission to unite humanity.


Ironwood is who Oz would have become if he'd given into the temptation to fight fire with fire and cast aside his own principles and humanity in pursuit of victory.


Theodore would if this theme continues be an Oz who took his optimism to the point of magical thinking and I Reject Your Reality, lead to the very sort of reckless waste of human life that Salem accuses him.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Nov 7th 2020 at 12:06:32 PM

Am I the only one concerned that the current plan is to move all the survivors of Mantle into the crater beneath Atlas? The place directly beneath the city being held in place by the thing Salem wants?

I'm guessing that the end stretch of the Volume will have a frenzied battle by Salem to take the staff, while half our heroes try to stop her and the other half rush to evacuate the crater.

The thought occurred, but there seem to be cave systems there that run beneath Solitas for when they were digging the portion that would be Atlas out. Should Atlas fall, the main risk would be cave ins and earthquakes.

There's definitely concerns, yeah.

Joanna is correct that they need somewhere that is warmer and easier to defend, where they can gather people. The crater seems to be the closest thing that currently fulfills those requirements. But then we have the issue of whether or not Atlas stays in the sky or not. The one key point I think is very interesting is that the Staff can be removed from the Vault and taken elsewhere, without harming Atlas. It just.....can't be used or Atlas will fall.

This raises an interesting question: If it's used to create something, will it remain permanently or is the Staff's power strictly one thing at a time? So if Salem were to make a giant monster, would it vanish the instant someone else used the Staff? Where is the line drawn in Creation? Is the rule with Atlas simply because it's being used to power an unnatural state?

@Rebel

Obviously if Penny turns traitor they aren't just gonna spoil it in the OP, but there are plenty of hints in the Episode and the OP itself of that Direction happening....

Also I saw someone point out that Kid Cinder has bandages on one of her Wrists and as I saw when I looked at the Shot again one of her fingers.

They were likely temporary injuries as we don't see Scars there in the present day, but its a minor detail to help exemplify that she had it rough.

The opening is one of my personal favorites when it comes to RWBY openings. The art looks badass..

We never see that part of Cinder arm in all of her outfits that part of the arm is always covered with something.

I see a lot of theorizing on how Penny is going to get hacked somewhere down the line (the opening supports the notion, and Ironwood has Watts in custody). Meanwhile, the episode teases the idea that Penny herself will do something ill-advised out of a misguided belief it will help the situation.

I wonder if we could have both. Have Penny hacked around the mid-season to provide a dramatic "mid-boss", then have Penny attempt her solo selfless heroism out of both the guilt for hurting her friends and the situation at hand.

Hmm... To me, while both animation and song are great, V8 opening goes to same category as V5 opening, "Not immediately clicking".

I think the issue with ironwood is that it feel a sort of...easy way to single him as villian now? it feel pointless, as more a way to said "look me, im the bad guy now!" sort of way.

He already shot a child for criticizing him. Shooting someone else for doing the exact same is a perfectly logical conclusion.

Yeah, even though I have that same thought as well, in the context of his character, it makes sense because of his Berserk Button being pressed.

Does anyone think Cinder is going to use the Lamp? The intro shows that everyone is frozen except for Cinder, Emerald and Neo.

I'm betting she will. Like, I have this whole theory, and so far things look good for that.

Edit: So I've been watching the intro carefully, and the blue-ish eye that turns red at the end? I'm pretty sure that's Penny's model, same eye shape and hairline. That seems to heavily hints at some kind of Face–Heel Turn on her part, either running back to Ironwood or giving the relic to Salem. The former would kind of break the story by launching one of the Plot Coupons into deep space, so I find it unlikely. The latter could either happen willingly in exchange for sparing Atlas/Mantle, or as a result of Watts tampering with her, though if he was capable of doing that why didn't he do it earlier; making Penny go on an actual killing spree instead of deepfaking one would have been much more effective in terms of sowing chaos in Atlas.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Nov 8th 2020 at 4:31:27 AM

There's the theory that Emerald will use the Lamp to tie her to Jinn a la Aladdin, and there's one obvious question she has on her mind.

Which is what? "Does Cinder love me?" Maybe. But I could also see her asking "How can I help Cinder?" or something like that. CRWBY mentioned that Mercury was more likely than her to have a Heel–Face Turn, and my bet is that she'll act as a foil to Blake, where she's in a similarly abusive relationship but instead of getting out just doubles down on denial and continues making excuses for Cinder no matter what she does.