The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

I also feel like the game pulls a bait-and-switch on you with the Stormcloaks. Especially if you go with Ralof in the opening.

The execution scene and Ralof's intro in Riverwood paint them as all about religious freedom, versus the corrupt Empire which would deny that.

Then you get to Windhelm and meet Galmar, and realize they're a Nord nationalist movement.

And if you can't spot that yourself, there's Brunwulf Free-winter to set you straight

I never joined the Stormcloaks in any of my playthroughs. Even before things got way too real, the racist nationalism of the Stormcloaks put me off.

It didn't help that I only played a Nord on my first playthrough.

Edited by M84 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:04:58 PM

I joined them when I first played the game - I was playing an orc warrior and figured siding with the guys who weren't trying to lob my head off might be a good idea.

Then I got to their HQ and the first thing I encountered was a bunch of Stormcloak supporters harassing people.

Even pointed out out to one Stormcloak who was going on about how Skyrim belongs to the Nords how my character is not, in fact, a Nord.

To which he basically replied with "But you're one of the good ones".

So yeah, that kinda put a damper on my support of them.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Apr 22nd 2019 at 2:24:18 PM

Top 5 Quest Mods for Skyrim on PS 4. A video showcase posted by Nathlaaar, one of the few people on youtube still making such videos about PS 4 mods to this day. The mods in question are:

1. - Sea Of Ghosts: https://beth.games/2UPBI0T
2. - Dragon Under Whiterun: https://beth.games/2IM3rIv
3. - Delves Of The Stone Legion: https://beth.games/2ZqcQLJ
4. - The Midden: Expanded PS 4: https://beth.games/2GyG189
5. - Forgotten Dungeons: https://beth.games/2GnZoQ1

So I'm going to pop these mods into my load order and make a character to run through them all.

So I just found out we have a ridiculously long and in-depth beginner’s guide to Skyrim here on the wiki, and all I can think about is “Was this created specifically because of Twentington?”

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Apr 23rd 2019 at 4:02:24 AM

Wow, that's a name I haven't heard in a while. I didn't know he tried to play Skyrim though, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone did do that because of him.

It was made before him I imagine

Yes, yes he tried. it went about as well as his XCOM "playthrough".

i can't be arsed to check dates, especially since the skyrim thread in which twentington posted got nuked, but I'm going to be level-headed and assume this is not because of him that we have this. It would be extremely concerning otherwise.

I was mostly joking about that... Mostly.

Still, that page is crazy in-depth about even the simplest stuff. Like, it’s more of a “Western RPG Beginner’s Guide” at points.

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Apr 23rd 2019 at 4:26:24 AM

I view it as a monument to my compulsion to pontificate about a topic I enjoy.

And more power to you, man.

What even happened to that thread

Someone sinned against the nine and the Talos smited the thread

(accidentally deleted)

I just assumed it self immolated after Twentington's 50th question about "You Have Researched Breathing" levels of inexperience.

I mean, that had to be trolling. It just had to be. My sincerity meter is all over the shop.

Also, the only reason to side with the Stormcloaks is to side with the main character from 13th Warrior (Who isn't Antonio Banderas)

You know, I had been wondering a while why I couldn't find that other, bigger Elder Scrolls thread. That certainly explains things.

I'd rather take my orders from Commander Ivanova and Colonel Tigh anyway.

Claudia is my waifu damn right.

Ivonova was my first on screen crush tbh. Funny as well. Good that she's now a go-to for Bethesda as a VA.

The Imperials are trying to play the long game; it doesn't help when you find out Ulfric's a ruddy Manchurian Candidate anyway. Or at least purposefully being allowed to rebel to keep the Empire weak. Oh the freakin' irony. But that's elves - using human's own hubris against them.

The Thalmor's plan with Ulfric was to have him keep the Empire busy and distracted. It's actually not a good thing for them if Ulfric actually wins quickly and decisively.

But what are the odds of that happening? It's not like some superpowered demigod will emerge and single-handedly win the war for Ulfric...

Likewise, it's not a good thing for the Thalmor if Ulfric is defeated too quickly by the Empire.

Again, not likely. It's not like some superpowered demigod will emerge and single-handedly crush Ulfric's rebellion...

Edited by M84 on Apr 25th 2019 at 5:23:09 PM

I mean, pshaw. When has that sort of thing ever happened in Tamriel's history? I mean, SERIOUSLY!

The Thalmor deal in FACTS not MYTH, I tell you! The Neveraine? Clearly a series of individuals who achieved seperate goals across the province, not some all powerful messiah.

The Oblivion Crisis? Totally natural phenomenon, caused by random weather fluctuations which just passed normally. Rumours of an individual guiding some human to defeat a Daedra - RUBBASH.

What do you mean some fellow just yelled at the guards and they went flying? Don't waste my time... now, go see who that is battering on the door.

I think it's more that the elves simply did not have time to account for the Dragonborn's presence? They only have a tiny embassy and a handful of skilled agents on Skyrim, plus some bodyguards, they don't have the luxury of being able to hunt down the Dragonborn with loads of troops.

They couldn't reasonably have foreseen the intervention of a Dragonborn to even be an influencing factor until it was too late, anyway. After all, when was the last time a Dragonborn had been reported to be present on Tamriel? Did Martin Septim count?

By virtue of being of the Septim line, yes he did count. And he was an important player in the history of Tamriel for a few weeks before his sacrifice, and even then he spent his time hidden until the very end.

So I'm starting to really feel the 100 mod limit on PS 4. There's so many environment overhaul and quest mods I want to add that I have to delete several long used but not essential mods to add them. I'm really thankful that there are mods that are literally multiple mods merged together to make that easier, but it only helps so much.

Is it mainly cosmetic stuff or world building you're going with? I have a fair few on PC Skyrim but I certainly feel the pinch even there. Also, find Nexus Mods is so full of... anime stuff. Though I was very tempted by that Elsewheyr mod, even though it's fairly old now.

I loved OOO for Oblivion and may revisit Skyrim if there's an equivalent mod. I'm not one of those people who can keep playing it, I think the "start" just wears me down - the DLC I should have finished but MEIN GOTT the early part exploring the map can feel downright dull. Oblivion on the other hand I loved so much, the music, the greenery. I think Skyrim is just filtered to be too gray at times.

Also, the bloody quest for Clavicus Vile that takes you for MILES with Barnabas is a pain.

The curse of a full steam library - I suppose I should do Helgen restored and finish all that off.