Super Smash Bros Ultimate (SPOILER Thread)

"Obvious" patterns are not really reliable.

Patterns don't exist.

This one already requires ignoring clones to even count.

Even if we take this "obvious" pattern into account...it really isn't. So far, we've had:

• a character from a popular recent RPG

• the main leads of a popular classic RPG spanning all generations (minus female versions for some stupid reason)

• A character and their companion from the N64 era

• A character from a classic fighting game franchise.

Not really a pattern here.

Edited by Rynnec on Sep 10th 2019 at 11:38:48 AM

They all have the color red somewhere. Clearly that's the pattern.

Bandicoots are reddish orange btw /s

People still push the "Incineroar is a shill" narrative huh? In the time where USUM is practically over and LGPE was their recent game, you don't "market" Incineroar.

The base roster of Ultimate was decided upon at the end of 2015-2016.

The only pattern I see is that the Fighter's Pass is entirely populated by characters from third parties where Nintendo either has a good relationship with them or is working real hard to make it good (that last one is pretty much solely for Square Enix). And that pattern is a bit flimsy; while it does make it more likely than not that a company that has a good working relationship with Nintendo gets the final invite (e.g. Bandai Namco or Ubisoft), nothing guarantees it.

All I know is, lots of people will throw darts at the metaphorical wall, someone will invariably guess right, and that person will say "I Knew It!" even if previous guesses prove that they were in fact just guessing.

And it means shit because your product comes out on 2018. When you shill something you know the marketing release. Compare Corrin or Roy to Incineroar. Even Greninja is more "shill" than him.

Edited by Ookamikun on Sep 12th 2019 at 12:32:49 AM

What matters in the end is that Incineroar has a dope Irish Whip and we're all better for it.

Indeed. Also those glorious pectorials of high priority nair.

I'm having a weird period of anti-hype because every character I ever wanted in Smash is already in as of 9/4, except for Dixie Kong and classic Ganon, who are first-party and thus probably ineligible. There's no third-party character they could possibly give me that could excite me more than Banjo and Kazooie.

Honestly, i've been happy with Ultimate's roster. Joker's reveal to me was peak hype.

I didn't have an attachment to the DLC characters, but Joker's reveal got me into Persona, so I'm grateful for that.

Of the characters so far, Joker's the one that I have the most familiarity with. I only knew about Slimes from Dragon Quest, I was a Gamecube kid so I didn't know about Banjo much besides online discussions about Smash Bros, and I know about the concept of an SNK boss from TV Tropes but otherwise don't know much at all about Terry.

I haven't been a fan of the DLC characters at all. I actively dislike Persona 5, I'm a fan of Dragon Quest but I didn't really want it in Smash, I've never played Banjo-Kazooie, and I know even less about Terry.

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:52:55 AM

Yeah, I'm also pretty un-hyped by the first Fighters Pack. I'm mildly hype averted by Persona, and I don't like the time-management gameplay; entirely neutral on Hero in concept, but he seems overpowered in-game; I loved Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie, so it's great to see them in; and I honestly couldn't care less about having another fighting game character in, but it's cool for Fatal Fury fans, I guess?

And this is why I didn't buy the Fighters Pack. Even if the fifth character is someone I really want (and I can't really think of anyone I would spring for now that old spitball favorites like Krystal and Shantae have been Spirit-deconfirmed), it's still not worth the money to buy five characters when I'll only use two of them.

We'll have to see what the second Pack looks like. I still want that concept that's been bouncing around of a Pokemon Trainer-style Byleth who swaps between the Three Lords.

Nobody said they were un-hipped by the pass yet...

Honestly, I probably get more of my money’s worth from the stages and especially the music than the fighters themselves. They’ve all been fun to play around with, but Inkling still suits my playstyle so well that there’s no need for me to invest in seriously learning a new character, especially when three of them had my reaction be like “cool, but they aren’t a character that means that much to me”, while my initial reaction to the fourth was “literally who?”

i mean i dont know shit about fatal fury but im sure im gonna have a blast playing terry, so im fine paying for a pass for characters i may or may not know about

Edited by MetaflarePrime on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:14:21 AM

I don't regret paying for the pass because Persona music is always a banger, Hero just clicks with me in all the right ways, and Banjo's fun.

Not gonna lie it seems less like you guys think the choices are bad and more "its unknown so I can't get hype for it", which I can understand, but would it kill to try and learn/play something new and unexpected? I dunno that much about DQ but Hero's announcement got me motivated to trying out DQ as a series altogether. I've accepted I won't like every single new DLC char, but I try my best to learn about them or try them out as fighter.

25 bucks are a bit rough for poor people, you know.

Well I do think Joker is a bad choice but yeah I'm not going to spend six bucks on something I don't care about.

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 12th 2019 at 12:01:21 PM

No one's obligated to like something.