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RAlexa21th Angel Flare, ready to go! from California Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Angel Flare, ready to go!
Sep 10th 2019 at 9:19:17 PM

"Obvious" patterns are not really reliable.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Sep 10th 2019 at 9:20:14 PM

Patterns don't exist.

This one already requires ignoring clones to even count.

This song needs more love.
Rynnec Killing is my business Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Killing is my business
Sep 10th 2019 at 9:37:05 PM

Even if we take this "obvious" pattern into account...it really isn't. So far, we've had:

  • a character from a popular recent RPG

  • the main leads of a popular classic RPG spanning all generations (minus female versions for some stupid reason)

  • A character and their companion from the N64 era

  • A character from a classic fighting game franchise.

Not really a pattern here.

Edited by Rynnec on Sep 10th 2019 at 11:38:48 AM

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Karxrida Art by @Rubi_arts from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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Sep 10th 2019 at 9:39:19 PM

They all have the color red somewhere. Clearly that's the pattern.

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fasoman1996 HELLO ME OLD CHUM from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
HELLO ME OLD CHUM
Sep 10th 2019 at 10:17:44 PM

Bandicoots are reddish orange btw /s

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Ookamikun Wolves, wolves, wolves! from the lupine den
Wolves, wolves, wolves!
Sep 11th 2019 at 12:55:55 AM

(Or potentially in the case of Incineroar, was chosen based on an idea Sakurai had of the character in his head, and then was chosen as a marketing vehicle based on that.)

People still push the "Incineroar is a shill" narrative huh? In the time where USUM is practically over and LGPE was their recent game, you don't "market" Incineroar.

Lone wolf? Hah! "Lone" wolves die out of hunger and loneliness. The wolf needs the pack, and the pack needs the wolf.
Sep 11th 2019 at 7:07:43 AM

The base roster of Ultimate was decided upon at the end of 2015-2016.

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
Sep 11th 2019 at 7:35:05 AM

The only pattern I see is that the Fighter's Pass is entirely populated by characters from third parties where Nintendo either has a good relationship with them or is working real hard to make it good (that last one is pretty much solely for Square Enix). And that pattern is a bit flimsy; while it does make it more likely than not that a company that has a good working relationship with Nintendo gets the final invite (e.g. Bandai Namco or Ubisoft), nothing guarantees it.

All I know is, lots of people will throw darts at the metaphorical wall, someone will invariably guess right, and that person will say "I Knew It!" even if previous guesses prove that they were in fact just guessing.

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Ookamikun Wolves, wolves, wolves! from the lupine den
Wolves, wolves, wolves!
Sep 11th 2019 at 9:32:37 AM

[up][up]And it means shit because your product comes out on 2018. When you shill something you know the marketing release. Compare Corrin or Roy to Incineroar. Even Greninja is more "shill" than him.

Edited by Ookamikun on Sep 12th 2019 at 12:32:49 AM

Lone wolf? Hah! "Lone" wolves die out of hunger and loneliness. The wolf needs the pack, and the pack needs the wolf.
JRads47 Hater of All who are Holier Than Thou from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
Hater of All who are Holier Than Thou
Sep 11th 2019 at 9:36:10 AM

What matters in the end is that Incineroar has a dope Irish Whip and we're all better for it.

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Ookamikun Wolves, wolves, wolves! from the lupine den
Wolves, wolves, wolves!
Sep 11th 2019 at 9:55:08 AM

Indeed. Also those glorious pectorials of high priority nair.

Lone wolf? Hah! "Lone" wolves die out of hunger and loneliness. The wolf needs the pack, and the pack needs the wolf.
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The Suce Is Loose
Sep 11th 2019 at 9:14:58 PM

I'm having a weird period of anti-hype because every character I ever wanted in Smash is already in as of 9/4, except for Dixie Kong and classic Ganon, who are first-party and thus probably ineligible. There's no third-party character they could possibly give me that could excite me more than Banjo and Kazooie.

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Dark-Type Specialist.
Sep 12th 2019 at 10:39:12 AM

Honestly, i've been happy with Ultimate's roster. Joker's reveal to me was peak hype.

JRads47 Hater of All who are Holier Than Thou from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
Hater of All who are Holier Than Thou
Sep 12th 2019 at 6:20:54 PM

I didn't have an attachment to the DLC characters, but Joker's reveal got me into Persona, so I'm grateful for that.

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Weirdguy149 Space Traveller from Space Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Space Traveller
Sep 12th 2019 at 6:47:02 PM

Of the characters so far, Joker's the one that I have the most familiarity with. I only knew about Slimes from Dragon Quest, I was a Gamecube kid so I didn't know about Banjo much besides online discussions about Smash Bros, and I know about the concept of an SNK boss from TV Tropes but otherwise don't know much at all about Terry.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Sep 12th 2019 at 6:52:21 PM

I haven't been a fan of the DLC characters at all. I actively dislike Persona 5, I'm a fan of Dragon Quest but I didn't really want it in Smash, I've never played Banjo-Kazooie, and I know even less about Terry.

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:52:55 AM

This song needs more love.
Sep 12th 2019 at 7:00:43 PM

Yeah, I'm also pretty un-hyped by the first Fighters Pack. I'm mildly hype averted by Persona, and I don't like the time-management gameplay; entirely neutral on Hero in concept, but he seems overpowered in-game; I loved Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie, so it's great to see them in; and I honestly couldn't care less about having another fighting game character in, but it's cool for Fatal Fury fans, I guess?

And this is why I didn't buy the Fighters Pack. Even if the fifth character is someone I really want (and I can't really think of anyone I would spring for now that old spitball favorites like Krystal and Shantae have been Spirit-deconfirmed), it's still not worth the money to buy five characters when I'll only use two of them.

We'll have to see what the second Pack looks like. I still want that concept that's been bouncing around of a Pokemon Trainer-style Byleth who swaps between the Three Lords.

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S.M.
Sep 12th 2019 at 7:03:14 PM

Nobody said they were un-hipped by the pass yet...

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ShinyCottonCandy Actually sour cream from The Galar Region Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Actually sour cream
Sep 12th 2019 at 7:10:10 PM

Honestly, I probably get more of my money’s worth from the stages and especially the music than the fighters themselves. They’ve all been fun to play around with, but Inkling still suits my playstyle so well that there’s no need for me to invest in seriously learning a new character, especially when three of them had my reaction be like “cool, but they aren’t a character that means that much to me”, while my initial reaction to the fourth was “literally who?”

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DNC
Sep 12th 2019 at 7:12:23 PM

i mean i dont know shit about fatal fury but im sure im gonna have a blast playing terry, so im fine paying for a pass for characters i may or may not know about

Edited by MetaflarePrime on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:14:21 AM

FIGHT CRIME IN A CASUAL WAY
Weirdguy149 Space Traveller from Space Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Space Traveller
Sep 12th 2019 at 7:19:22 PM

I don't regret paying for the pass because Persona music is always a banger, Hero just clicks with me in all the right ways, and Banjo's fun.

Daisy, daisy...
AlphaVII Mecha and Waifu, become one! from A part of the endless starry sky Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Mecha and Waifu, become one!
Sep 12th 2019 at 8:55:42 PM

Not gonna lie it seems less like you guys think the choices are bad and more "its unknown so I can't get hype for it", which I can understand, but would it kill to try and learn/play something new and unexpected? I dunno that much about DQ but Hero's announcement got me motivated to trying out DQ as a series altogether. I've accepted I won't like every single new DLC char, but I try my best to learn about them or try them out as fighter.

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RAlexa21th Angel Flare, ready to go! from California Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Angel Flare, ready to go!
Sep 12th 2019 at 8:58:15 PM

25 bucks are a bit rough for poor people, you know.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Sep 12th 2019 at 9:01:01 PM

Well I do think Joker is a bad choice but yeah I'm not going to spend six bucks on something I don't care about.

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 12th 2019 at 12:01:21 PM

This song needs more love.
Sep 12th 2019 at 9:17:26 PM

No one's obligated to like something.


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