Super Smash Bros Ultimate (SPOILER Thread)

yes, by the Chaos Kin

I think Ken must be a reference to Violent Ken, not the SFII Movie. He is brainwashed by Bison in that version of his.

Here is an update on the final boss list:

• Master Hand: Donkey Kong, Samus, Dark Samus, Fox, Pikachu, Ness, Peach, Daisy, Sheik, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Lucina, Ganondorf, Roy, Sonic
• Crazy Hand: Falco (Freaking hipster)
• Master and Crazy: Ice Climbers, Mewtwo, Chrom, Ryu
• Giga Bowser: Mario, Captain Falcon
• Ganon: Link, Zelda (She fights Ganondorf beforehand), Young Link
• Marx: Kirby
• Galleom: R.O.B., Wolf
• Rathalos: Yoshi, Marth, Duck Hunt
• Dracula: Luigi, Simon, Richter
• Misc Boss: Jigglypuff (Giant DK), Bowser (Mario and Metal Mario), Bayonetta (Giant Palutena)

Bowser fights Rathalos in his sixth fight instead of being his final boss. Strange.

Violent Ken pretty much is Street Fighter 2 the Movie brainwashed Ken. That film was extremely influential to SF as a whole when it was new due to how well received it was, and every so often we still get new ideas and characters colored by it.

To give more details as to what CountofBleck noted, in Chapter 19 of Kid Icarus: Uprising, Pit's soul is locked inside of a ring that lets him possess whoever wears it, and he eventually gets picked up by his old ally Magnus, who has to fight off Pit's body, which is being indirectly controlled by the Chaos Kin (who is more directly controlling Palutena at the same time).

Heck, in terms of mind control, if you count being possessed, you could also throw Bowser in there (thanks, Cackletta) and Ganondorf/Ganon (thanks to Yuga in A Link Between Worlds), too.

Here's an even more updated version of that list.

• Master Hand: Samus, Dark Samus, Fox, Pikachu (fights Mewtwo beforehand), Ness, Peach, Daisy, Sheik, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Lucina, Ganondorf, Roy, Zero Suit Samus, Lucas, Pokemon Trainer (fights Mewtwo beforehand), Sonic, Little Mac, Palutena, Shulk, Bowser Jr., Cloud, Isabelle
• Crazy Hand: Falco, Ken
• Master and Crazy: Donkey Kong, Ice Climbers, Mewtwo, Chrom, Pit, Ike, Dedede, Ryu
• Giga Bowser: Mario, Captain Falcon (Both fight Bowser beforehand)
• Ganon: Link, Zelda (She fights Ganondorf beforehand), Young Link
• Marx: Kirby, Inkling
• Galleom: Snake, R.O.B., Wolf, King K. Rool
• Rathalos: Yoshi, Marth, Duck Hunt
• Dracula: Luigi, Simon, Richter
• Misc Boss: Jigglypuff (Giant DK), Bowser (Mario and Metal Mario), Bayonetta (Giant Palutena)

The only ones unaccounted for now are Mr. Game and Watch, Dark Pit, Meta Knight, Wario, Diddy, Olimar, Lucario, Toon Link, Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Rosalina, Greninja, Pac-Man, Robin, Corrin, Ridley, and Incineroar.

Wild guess: Master Hand is a placeholder for future bosses that will be free DLC.

Porky will replace MH for the final boss in Classic mode for both Ness and Lucas, explaining the absense of a Porky spirit.

Minecraft Boss, besides being the final boss of Steve/Banjo could also be fought by Villager.

It does seem like they wanted to have a Mega Mewtwo boss for the Pokemon characters but had to use Master Hand instead.

I'd think that good candidates for a Pokémon boss would be either Primal Dialga or Mega Rayquaza. The latter especially since they could just reuse Rayquaza'a model from Brawl and touch up the cosmetics to make it look like Mega Rayquaza.

Either Mega Mewtwo would work: Y taking a cue from the Final Smash and just nuking stuff, and X pulling a Giga Bowser.

Rosalina also fights Marx

Dark Pit fights Galleom (I guess because he technically debuted in Brawl), Meta Knight fights both Hands (His theme is both halves of the same face and fights a good guy and their dark side) and Game and Watch and Wario both fight Master Hand.

More news to come later

There is a Rayman Spirit Battle in World of Light◊.

Edited by kablammin45 on Dec 4th 2018 at 4:22:04 AM

that screenshot must be a lie,there's no rayman in smash bros

He was a Trophy last game though?

Pacman's classic mode has him fight all fighters that starred in a NES title finishing off with Dracula as his final boss.

Will update the classic mode final boss list in a moment

There, we have all the fighters now and their final bosses

• Master Hand: Samus, Dark Samus, Fox, Pikachu (fights Mewtwo beforehand), Ness, Peach, Daisy, Sheik, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Lucina, Ganondorf, Roy, Game and Watch, Zero Suit Samus, Wario, Lucas, Pokemon Trainer (fights Mewtwo beforehand), Sonic, King Dedede, Olimar, Lucario, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Greninja, Palutena, Robin, Shulk, Bowser Jr., Cloud, Corrin, Ridley, Isabelle
• Crazy Hand: Falco, Ken
• Master and Crazy: Donkey Kong, Ice Climbers, Mewtwo, Chrom, Meta Knight, Pit, Ike, Diddy Kong, Ryu, Incineroar
• Giga Bowser: Mario, Captain Falcon (Both fight Bowser beforehand)
• Ganon: Link, Zelda (She fights Ganondorf beforehand), Young Link, Toon Link
• Marx: Kirby, Rosalina, Inkling
• Galleom: Dark Pit, Snake, R.O.B., Wolf, King K. Rool
• Rathalos: Yoshi, Marth, Duck Hunt
• Dracula: Luigi, Pacman, Simon, Richter
• Misc Boss: Jigglypuff (Giant DK), Bowser (Mario and Metal Mario), Megaman (Dr. Mario and Mewtwo) Bayonetta (Giant Palutena)

Wow, Giga Bowser was very underutilized.

Jeez the Fire Emblem characters got screwed on their boss choices.

Edited by LordVatek on Dec 4th 2018 at 9:25:16 AM

...Is Mega Man's final boss a reference to Mega Man 2?

Also, yeah, Giga Bowser and Crazy Hand really don't get to fight that many people.

Marx not getting to fight Meta Knight and Dedede is surprising to me as well, I figured he'd fight all of the Kirby bosses. Also, why does Inkling fight him?

It's because Inkling's theming is centered around colors, and Marx is quite the colorful guy.

Well, that makes sense. I do remember him having a paintball attack in Super Star Ultra. Thanks.

Now I'm wondering why Jigglypuff fights Giant Donkey Kong of all things. I can't come up with anything for that one.

Puff's theme is Classic 64 fights. She goes against all the fighters that debuted in 64.

Giant DK was an event match in 64 if i recall.

64 had no event matches, but giant DK was part of the 1 player mode.

@I Like Kirbys: Actually, yes. Megaman II in Japan is called "The Secret of Dr. Wily". His classic campaign in Japan is called "The Secret of Dr. Mario".

For Mega Man, he should've fought Dr. Mario first and a souped-up Mewtwo next as a reference to Mega Man 2's final boss.

I'm doing a total of how many times fighters show up during these and I'm more than halfway through, and by God, Dark Samus shows up a heck of a lot.