Fallout: 76 - Take Me Home, Country Roads

I have no hype.

Who asked for this? Nobody asked for this.

If you thought Betsheda was chasing trends with Elder Scrolls Online, turning TES into an MMO- which was never, ever going to work- now they're jumping on another bandwagon and turning Fallout into an Open-Word Survival Game. What, is it going to come out in Early Access too?

What are they thinking!?

Seriously, the one thing Bethesda are consistently good at nowadays is disappointing people. Even if they do announce Starfield on June 10th like they've been teasing, there'd still be an open question of whether the game will actually be good. Plenty of reason to think it won't given how Fallout 4 turned out.

edited 30th May '18 2:29:52 PM by Gault

...of course.

Cause you know, waiting until the company agreed to share details about the game wasn't the superior option.

Because hey, that NDA they signed probably isn't that important, right?

> Who asked for this? Nobody asked for this.

See,I read that as 'i dont want this thing' which is fine and all but,maybe wait and see?

I mean, it could be just a new single player game with a co-op component... which would actually be kinda fun.

I'm tempering disappointment / joy until the presentation. Frankly, if we get a talking Deathclaw back, then that could be cool! Right? Riiiiight?

Hey, people rib on the talking Deathclaw, but I think it'd be cool.

Deathclaws can;t talk because they don't have anything nice to say

"Dear chap, your power armor is looking quite lovely. Would you mind terribly if I rip into you and feast on your delectable innards? I'm famished."

Why are people complaining about hearing about this early? It's a good thing we're getting details for Fallout 76 before Bethesda intended us to. Helps defuse the hype cycle, which- ho boy. Imagine if Betsheda managed to keep us on the hook for longer thinking this was a New Vegas-style spinoff. I'm glad we know they're doing the whole Open-World Survival thing, it gives me a more accurate assessment of whether I'll want to end up buying it or not- and it turns out not.

yes. ESO was never ever going tio work.

Thats why it just released a new expansion this past week, its second one, and has tons of returning or new players.

I mean, Im not a fan of survival games, but this might be a good game for the right audience, same as ESO is a pretty dang good MMO

edited 30th May '18 3:06:29 PM by Midgetsnowman

Online? Survival? I'll pass.

No way a triple A company is going to do an early release, or a crappy Battle Royale game. Right?

Here is an article on the new trailer.

Elder Scrolls Online is popular, but it isn't an Elder Scrolls game. It's a cookie-cutter MMO set in the Elder Scrolls universe. The people who enjoy playing Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim aren't going to get anything even remotely similar from ESO.

Moreover, this announcement has people worried because ESO is making so much money that Bethesda has barely even considered making TES 6, and it's anticipated the same fate will befall the Fallout franchise.

Also, believe it or not, preorders are already open.

Yes, you read that right. You can preorder it based on nothing but this one measly trailer.

@Gault: Uh, me, actually. I wanted an Open-World Survival Fallout.

Now the subreddit is like 'PUT THIS MAN IN THE GAME' and stuff XD if they did that would be amazing.

edited 30th May '18 7:43:44 PM by lalalei2001

I mean. I can get that worry, but uif theres a flaw in ESO that means I think ES 6 will still happen, its that ESO can only explore so much because they cant countermand events that happen later in the timeline

Similar with this. if it happens right after the vault opens, then a lot of the world outside appalachi cant be all that affected by the events of 76

edited 30th May '18 3:35:20 PM by Midgetsnowman

Elder Scrolls 6 will definitely still happen. I never doubted that for a second. But developing it and releasing it at the same time as ESO, in Bethesda's mind, would cannibalize it's player base and reduce overall profits. MM Os are long-term projects that represent a reliable and recurrent stream of revenue, so there's all the reason a company needs to hold off from developing the next game in their flagship franchise.

Fallout 76 has been described as a "live service experience" from some of the leaks that have come out about it, so even if it's not a proper MMO, there is every chance- if not likelihood- that it will represent the same kind of nickle-and-diming financial strategy that has kept TES 6 in limbo since 2011.

Make no mistake, this is very bad news for any fan of the recent Fallout games. The fact that Bethesda is using the same modified Gamebryo engine that they made Fallout 4 with, judging by the appearance of that teaser trailer, is another nail in the coffin. Both Elder Scrolls and Fallout have needed to transition to a new engine for a long while, the current Gamebryo-derived engine is like a boat anchor around the neck of Bethesda's recent open-world games.

The teaser trailer does not indicate to me at least that they're still using the same engine,no real gameplay footage was shown

The teaser was rendered in-engine. If you compare it to the visuals of Fallout 4, they're practically identical.

I have at best mixed feelings about this game. I can see the appeal of the survival game set up especially for a fallout game for a vault opened in that time frame. However I don't trust Beth to pull this off.

I say hold your hoses until we see actual gameplay footage,yes they've earned our distrust,but this might win back the crowd as it were

Given their current track record we are perfectly justified in our dissent and doubts.

Absolutely. Bethesda's been the target of a lot of criticism, but it's almost entirely justified. This new move, far from filling us with confidence in the company's judgment, seems instead to be tailor-made to give the impression that they're just chasing shallow industry trends. I'm reminded of Cod Blops 4 dropping their singleplayer campaign in favor of a Battle Royale mode.

How would this win back the community's trust? Nobody was asking for a Multiplayer Fallout game. Hardly anyone was even thinking it. A coop open-world survival game is perhaps less offensive to the core Fallout gameplay formula than an MMO is to the core gameplay of the Elder Scrolls franchise, but it's still a significant break that doesn't speak well to their priorities.

Now I'm wondering if what Bethesda has to offer at E3 will be similarly disappointing. So much for that cute little papercraft teaser they released a while back. Countdown to Disappointment 2018, brought to you by Bethesda Softworks!

edited 30th May '18 4:38:59 PM by Gault

Well, my big concerns are:

1. 1: Will the game be playable at launch? Bethesda games are notoriously buggy.

2. 2: Will they have more RPG elements in it?

3. 3: Will they fix the dialogue wheel?

@Gault: It's not true that "nobody was asking" for a multiplayer Fallout. There have been New Vegas Mods to make the game multiplayer already, for example.

edited 30th May '18 4:40:34 PM by Protagonist506

Eh, to be honest, a "survival-type" Fallout does sound interesting.

One of the big things I disliked in Fallout 4 was the lack of feeling like I had to "survive." I hated the gun customization. I'm in an apocalyptic wasteland, my guns shouldn't be immortal and neither should I. Getting rid of the "guns break down and eventually you have to clean/repair them" mechanic was always a turn-off.

Plus I usually play Fallout trying to be a "survivalist" anyway. Turning on backpack mods, only carrying 2 pistols and a rifle with like 40-60 bullets each, only 1-2 grenades, and generally unequipping heavy stuff like launchers and miniguns when I'm not in power armor.

The "Survival" difficulty never really did it for me either and I could never put together the right FO-4 mods to make it truly memorable.

edited 30th May '18 5:02:55 PM by Soble