Avengers Endgame spoiler thread

Edited by qwigly on Apr 27th 2019 at 1:53:44 AM

Would Loki stealing the Space Stone in New York 2012 have screwed up getting it from Asgard in 2013?

If Asgard doesn't have the Tesseract then how does Thanos get it in the future- OW MY BRAIN

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 27th 2019 at 1:54:17 AM

Thinking about the new season of Agents of SHIELD, you know what would be interesting? So Season 6 takes place "one year later" than the Season 5 finale, which would place it one year into the Snap. What if the rest of the season takes place over four years? Sure, it would require some more timeskips, but it would mean we would have one season that would look at the world of the Snap and how SHIELD dealt with it...and then Season 7 could take place post-Endgame and look at how they dealt with the return of all those Snapped.

Edited by alliterator on Apr 27th 2019 at 1:58:16 AM

Man that was dope, lot of things to talk about.

Like Goddamn Thanos. That motherfucker just wouldn't stop. Damn near tanked everything & gave it back equally. Even when Carol overpowered him he on the fly used the Power Stone to break through her defenses.

And when's alls said & done, he takes his defeat like a boss. No screams of defiance, pointless flailing or taking people with him. No he just accepts it, choosing to sit down & embrace oblivion without a word.

Farethee well Thanos, you were magnificient.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 27th 2019 at 2:17:16 AM

Yeah. he was surprisingly graceful in his defeat. But then again, he's surprisingly subdued in a lot of things he does.

Surely the biggest time paradox is how Thanos can be around to assemble the stones and everything else in 2018 when he time-jumped forward from 2014 and got snapped?

Alternate timeline. The Ancient One explained that they were essentially creating split timelines. It's also how Nebula was able to shoot her younger self without consequences.

Edited by alliterator on Apr 27th 2019 at 2:22:50 AM

The Idea of the MCU as a full fledged multiverse from here on like the comics makes me giddy, not gonna lie. There are so many cosmic Multiversal villains that they can add, like the Chaos King, Dormammu as he truly was meant to be, Shuma Gorath, Kane the Conqueror, etc.

I feel like adding Kang the Conquer at this point would be reduendent, given we just did the main beats of their stories.

Edited by Whowho on Apr 27th 2019 at 10:30:49 AM

It occurs to me that the Tesseract stealing plan would have worked if Scott had been faster giving 2012 Tony a Heart Attack. Because then 2019 Tony would have left before Hulk came out and there would have been no problem.

But would split timelines allow for Old Man Cap at the end? I thought Banner's response was that the splits the Ancient One feared wouldn't happen if the Stones were returned to where they were originally.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 27th 2019 at 2:50:16 AM

He still had a way to return right? He just didn't right away. I always assumed he just used his thing to return after it was done...except he should have come back through the portal they set up...

Edited by HandsomeRob on Apr 27th 2019 at 3:52:06 AM

If the stones are returned, yes, there wouldn't be any split timelines. But there are moments where there have to be split timelines, because otherwise it makes no sense: Loki escaping with the Tesseract post-Battle of New York would mean a complete split timeline unless Captain America immediately caught him and returned him; there is now a timeline where Thanos and his armies completely vanished in 2014, so Guardians of the Galaxy would be completely different.

The issue with Cap living in the past with Peggy is whether or not he created a split-timeline or a Stable Time Loop — if it's the former, then he changed the timeline, saved Bucky, prevented Hydra's takeover, married Peggy, and then when he was old, jumped back to his original timeline; if it's the latter, then he was always Peggy's husband and never changed the timeline at all, even though he knew what was going to happen.

Old Steve works like so:

Timeline A: MCU events happen offscreen. Steve travels back in time to marry Peggy in Timeline B.

Timeline B: The movies. We see all of these events and Steve travels back in time to marry Peggy in Timeline C. Old Steve is here.

Timeline C: Seen at the end of the movie.

I assume Loki having the Tesseract was to set up his TV show.

I knew it I knew since Age of Ultron that Tony was going to sacrifice himself.

I assume the timeline didn't split with Loki, he's just being using illusions the entire time.

Whatever. I go for Steve doing a little bit of dimension hopping in the end because anything else gives me a headache.

In their defence for when they decided to pick the aether: Thor knew exactly where it was in 2013, but he didn't know where the collector decided to keep it later on.

On how the alternate 2014 might work without Thanos, would that where the Captain Marvel sequel might take place in now given that Ronan was always separate from Thanos and that Carol was already assisting Talos' Skrull resistance cell at that point?

Edited by HallowHawk on Apr 27th 2019 at 6:13:33 PM

Someone on page 22 said an idea for the next films to deal with the five year time skip.

The solution is that the movies from 2.019 to 2.023 take place in the same year.

The only problem I have with this solution is Peter Parker / Spiderman.

I want to see Peter Parker grow up, see him in the college. So to keep him as a teenager of 16-17 years old for many years does not convince me.

The simplest solution is that from now on all movies take place 4 years in the future, it is not necessary that they take place in the present.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Apr 27th 2019 at 3:17:33 AM

...would saying the Tonysnap reset the calendar somehow strain credibility somewhat?

Considering how Morgan is still around and Cassie is still a teenager, yes.

Edited by LordVatek on Apr 27th 2019 at 6:20:04 AM

So, what's up with Steve and Sharon Carter?

The idea of the time travel creating alternate universes works best for everything except Steve at the end, where it doesn't work at all (without some kind of handwave like he's actually been living in a different timeline then somehow came back)

Hey.

Guess what.

Guess what.

Guess what.

Sharon Carter is now Steve's niece.

As if that romance wasn't shitty enough to begin with?