Hazbin Hotel pilot & Helluva Boss

Both scenes look like a standard “abandoned by a loved one” scene

CellSpex recently released a video about her thoughts on Season 2 and the various criticisms people have regarding it.

Overall, she agrees with some of the complaints (The pacing of some episodes and story beats, Stella being a boring villain, the Cringe Comedy in Unhappy Campers leaning too much into "cringe" and not enough into "comedy" etc.), but she also addresses that some (Though not all) of the complaints in regards to how certain characters develop seem to be along the lines of some fans being pissed that their personal headcanons don't turn out to be true. Sounds like a fandom, alright.

I thought this video was a pretty good analysis all around, but what do you think?

That's kinda been my issue in how the general premise is not fully realized.

The setting is hell and is about demons. But that only goes as far as justification for people dropping swears a lot...not the R-word though. Otherwise the locales look like Earth cities or ranches but with a red sky, and the citizens are in practice basically just humans with red skin and bear trap teeth.

Crimson leaned close to that supports premise at first. Imps are near the bottom of the food chain, of course if they want power it'd be through underground or outside the order means, no pun intended. Him doing the MCU Vulture shtick of running a criminal empire while staying beneath the top dog's notice works. But then in his second appearance he's extorting a prince of hell with a video of his own face and a plan that leaves an explicit paper trail. How is this guy's third appearance not gonna be him already in the grave?

A new tweet from Vivziepop: https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1705645390350160253

So the tweet basically acknowledges that it's the last day of summer but Hazbin hasn't released yet, even though it was supposed to be summer 2023, but the tweet also doesn't explain why. I'm finding the lack of explanation kind of odd - I realise there are probably stipulations by A24 about what can and cannot be talked about, but if they approved the release of a poster with a definitive release date then surely they would realise it's common sense to also allow the team to say something more definitive than 'there will be an update soon', since that's been all that's been said for awhile.

I've seen conflicting opinions about whether or not it's related to the SAG strikes, since there had been a post about a wrap up for HB a long while before that, if I remember rightly, and surely VA work would be done concurrently with the animation since mouth movements would need to be animated to.

I do find it worrying there hasn't been so much as a trailer either - A24 might do things differently for other shows but HH built its following mostly online, it seems odd to have so little promo for it.

I'm happy there's at least some kind of acknowledgment. Radio silence is worse than just openly admitting some kind of setback.

New preview for the next episode, featuring Mammon.

Surprised they aren't waiting till the actual episode to reveal him.

https://x.com/hazbinhotel/status/1707394905310388652?s=46

We finally got our date AND premiere month (plus some bonus news!)

So I guess that leaves Leviathon, Belphegor and Satan ?

Related note; should the series itself get a separate namespace from the pilot when we get enough material from it?

Youtube version of the same announcement for the airdate and platform of Hazbin Hotel mentioned above

Posting for more accessibility and etc. for those that might not be able to view on Twitter for whatever reason.

Edit:

Just in case some can't view the video.

Hazbin Hotel will air on January 2024 and will stream on Amazon Prime.

Season 2 is also announced to be coming.

Edited by Elfkaiser on Sep 28th 2023 at 7:21:54 AM

Now that we have an actual trailer and platform, I'm thinking we should give Hazbin Hotel it's own thread on western animation.

The Future Works page seems to list it as

WesternAnimation.Hazbin Hotel 2024

Should the show have its own page seperate from the pilot?

That was me.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Sep 28th 2023 at 10:23:12 AM

I think so

Are we to inform the mods or can we just start the new one already?

I dont know...so much of the talk and history was in this thread to begin with, what would starting a new thread even do?

A fresh new start? You see, the characters could very much have been re-written and could be very different from their characterizations from the Hazbin pilot (which is now considered non-canon and more of a test run).

I already made a thread for it in Western Animation tab.

Thanks.

Edited by DoubleOG on Sep 28th 2023 at 7:56:41 AM

Link to the new thread here

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Sep 28th 2023 at 2:52:20 PM

Should this thread be renamed to just "Helluva Boss" or "Hazbin Hotel pilot & Helluva Boss"?

Probably "Hazbin Hotel pilot & Helluva Boss" as it literally starts with Hazbin and has a lot of posts related to it.

Edited by Elfkaiser on Sep 28th 2023 at 8:27:03 AM

Alright

Why the rename?