Goblin Slayer (anime! light novel!)

Isn't that the case though, goblins can be considered minor nuisances when compared to other monsters that exist. There's also the fact that regular person can take down one with relative ease which fuels the perception. A local Lord taking precautions may very mean that said village would never see a goblin, but that would because the goblins knew better and targeted somewhere less protected. Basically you can keep your house from being infested, however once it gets started a few blocks away there's not much you can do.

People not taking an obvious threat seriously due to either misinformation and/or a narrow perception isn't realistic?

Wasn't that the context of what was quoted? I agree with slimcoder, but imo it comes down the individual. Some people a disgusted at what the goblins do (which is the intention), while others spam "She gonna get gobbed" whenever a new girl shows up.

Edited by Cross on Oct 4th 2018 at 8:55:27 AM

The issue is that the rookies who do go in thinking they are in a typical RPG setting where goblins are easy first level encounters either smarten up to the reality or they suffer the fate of the rookie team in the first chapter. And that's what happens to most rookie teams.

More experienced adventurers know damn well that goblins are indeed a threat...one that to them honestly isn't worth the pittance the poor villagers who make the requests for goblin slaying offer (because they can't afford anything else). Goblin Slayer is something of a folk hero to these villagers because he's the only experienced adventurer willing to take these jobs despite the low pay.

Adventuring is a dangerous job.

The upper echelons of society are, much like in real life, completely unable to understand the hardships faced by the people on the bottom rung of society. They are too preoccupied with the more obvious larger threats like demon lords and such to even consider the threat posed by goblins.

The less said about the people who make jokes about goblins raping female characters, the better.

Edited by M84 on Oct 4th 2018 at 9:18:45 PM

So it's mostly that the experience adventurers don't think the pay they would get is adequate and not that they underestimate Goblins?

More or less.

The Guild also subtly warns Porcelain Rookies that Goblin extermination jobs are dangerous by offering an immediate promotion to the next rank after eliminating one Goblin nest. It's just that most Rookies don't realize that this is because wiping out a Goblin nest is not a Porcelain rank task like killing giant rats or something.

At the end of the day, Adventurers aren't charity workers. They do what they do because it's a living. A job. And most Adventurers will want to be adequately compensated for dangerous work. Goblin Slayer is an exception because he's hellbent on killing as many Goblins as he can until he croaks.

Edited by M84 on Oct 4th 2018 at 9:39:10 PM

Alright that makes sense. Think maybe or maybe not I'll give a LN/Manga a shot. Which one is better in your opinion?

And yea...Rape is kind of an uncomfortable subject especially on what the hell the goblin was doing from what I heard. Regardless, I think it's okay to like the LN despite that uncomfortable subject matter and I don't think it's Berserk tier (Berserk is way more complex than GS I guess?)

No one is saying we can't like it. Just that we should acknowledge that the scenes are what they are rather than downplay them as "not as bad".

Although speaking of rape... Is GS almost like Jinrouki Winvurga (I know the manga is obscure but still...) or World's End Harem when it comes to handling it?

alright, makes sense

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Oct 4th 2018 at 8:46:33 PM

Ugh, comparing manga based on how well they handle rape scenes? I'll pass, thanks. I don't want to give a series a cookie for not being as shitty about rape as some other series.

Edited by M84 on Oct 4th 2018 at 9:48:13 PM

Sorry about that >.< I really need to think before I act. I'm also not a fan of rape-y stuff so yeah... :/

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Oct 4th 2018 at 8:50:00 PM

Moving on to something other than rape...

Another plot thread in this series is that the goblins are becoming craftier. It Can Think is very much in full force with Goblins. One reason Goblin Slayer is so pragmatic and creative when it comes to killing them is because he is fully aware of this. In the fifth LN volume we even see the appearance of a Goblin Paladin blessed by the God of Wisdom. The Goblin Paladin does ultimately go down like any other Goblin who runs into Goblin Slayer, but it's not an easy fight.

When does the anime start airing?

The anime starts airing this week, actually. October 6 is the premiere. Also, one point I have to bring up is that the LN doesn't actually have much in the way of rape scenes. They're mentioned, but not a lot of page space used in describing them. I think the manga expanded upon them 1) because it's a visual medium and 2) to really drive home the fact that goblins are scum of the earth and should be wiped out without mercy. And even then only the first chapter gets that graphic with them.

Was the Goblin Paladin a paladin for the god of Wisdom or Knowledge? I remember that both are a thing, and that there was an important distinction.

Edited by danime91 on Oct 4th 2018 at 8:41:02 AM

Nope, it's apparently just one deity. A God of Wisdom and Knowledge.

Hmm, just skimmed through the fifth volume again to confirm. There actually is two. It's confusing because the God of Knowledge is the one who acts more as a guide to seekers and explorers. The God of Wisdom, or the God of External Knowledge, as he's also called, is the one who just gives ideas and answers to whoever he feels like without regard to the consequences, and is considered a pseudo-dark god.

Edited by danime91 on Oct 4th 2018 at 9:16:46 AM

Hmm, I must have forgotten. It's confusing since he's called a God of Wisdom and a God of External Knowledge, while the other is just called the God of Knowledge. Maybe it's less confusing in the original Japanese.

Still, I was technically right earlier when I said it was the God of Wisdom.

Edited by M84 on Oct 5th 2018 at 12:22:36 AM

Yeah, it's weird. You'd think the God of Wisdom is the one who would be, you know, wiser about who he gives knowledge to. That whole adage about INT versus WIS in DnD and all. Makes me think maybe there was a translation mix-up.

First episode is out. Poor fighter though.

In the manga there's scenes of the Rookies' pasts, making their fates that much sadder.

I guess there wasn't enough time in the episode to include those scenes.

Just watched. I can understand them having to cut some stuff out. The flashbacks did kind of mess up the pacing of the narrative. Especially with three flashbacks all in close proximity. They handled the rape scenes about how I'd expect them to, basically more along the lines of the light novel than the manga, in which they get brief mention, then cut away and get on with the plot. The animation was decent, and I'm hoping it will only improve from here. Needs more heavy metal in the fight scenes, though, to really drive home that Doom vibe.

Also, are spoilers necessary?

Edited by danime91 on Oct 6th 2018 at 12:40:39 PM

Not everyone has read the light novel or manga.

"Edge edge edge edge edge edge edge edge"

This was so edgy. So cutting. am, a horde of inexperienced adventurers gets horribly slaughtered and one gets goblin raped and then the hero kills a bunch of children. Such amazing writing.

Maybe I'm just hard to impress, but there's been like a zillion DND "inexperienced adventurers run headlong into danger and pay for it" stories that are much better than this was. You can almost see the author with his Edge Abacus attempting to tally up when he hit peak edge.

Edited by Lightysnake on Oct 6th 2018 at 1:21:30 AM

It's DnD with some Reality Ensues, what exactly were you expecting? And besides, the first group of adventurers were Decoy Protagonist fodder, used to illustrate the point. You're literally taking the plot of the first episode and thinking it applies to the entire series.

Edited by danime91 on Oct 6th 2018 at 1:28:36 AM

No, I've read DND with 'reality ensues' before. Actual DND has been doing it since...the 70s-80s.

Also, should I not judge a series on its first episode? Because what we got was pretty shit. It's about a socially awkward guy killing goblins because they wronged him, killed a bunch of people and raped his sister, it's not a deep plot.

Edited by Lightysnake on Oct 6th 2018 at 1:44:52 AM

This series is well known simply because it’s about a guy killing goblins, that’s it.

It’s kinda like Doom but with a couple of otaku shit like the girls in the cast falling for G-Slayer.

Doom managed to have a serious sense of fun about its story without needing to resort to a bunch of imps raping female scientists or something, too.

God, Doom 2016 was good.