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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#4426: Apr 28th 2022 at 11:57:32 AM

So how does this incarnation compare to the original? Are there many parallels, or does this show basically do its own thing?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#4427: Apr 28th 2022 at 12:06:51 PM

This show has like 0 resemblance to the original She ra,I remember how Younger Me felt that She ra was an inferior show to the main parent show He-man

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#4428: Apr 28th 2022 at 12:11:15 PM

[up][up]In Name Only. That's part of why there was so much heat directed towards this show when it first came out.

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Demetrios Do a barrel roll! from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#4429: Apr 28th 2022 at 12:11:42 PM

But then it turned out to be great. cool

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#4430: Apr 28th 2022 at 12:14:04 PM

Season 1 was pretty weak, and I'd argue Season 3 (as in second half of 2) is when it finally found its footing. But overall the show turned out pretty good, yeah.

That being said, I do hope fans of the old She-Ra get some bones thrown their way one day too. I know the pain of having the show you loved get adaptations that have nothing to do with the source after decades of waiting. Except Reboot The Guardian Code is a fucking atrocity.

Edited by PhiSat on Apr 28th 2022 at 1:14:24 PM

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#4431: Apr 28th 2022 at 1:13:21 PM

Eh, I'm not sure if I'd call it 100% In Name Only. I'd put in on the same level as Iron Man Armored Adventures: general characters and premise is there but all characters are heavily changed. Heck, many lesser-known MCU characters are on a similar level (Eternals, Some of Guardians, Pyms...) But like compared to Mega Man Fully Charged, Sonic Underground or Reboot Guardian Code it's not that insane.

Basically, it's She-Ra with all characters being relatable quirky teens/young adults, even villains (except few parental figures) with She-Ra no longer having a secret identity, there being some ongoing secret backstory with First Ones and Runestones, and generally, everyone is much more reformable and gay.

Edited by Sunchet on Apr 28th 2022 at 10:13:42 AM

Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#4432: Apr 28th 2022 at 1:18:02 PM

It's someone getting the toys from the original and telling their own story with it. And swapping out some of the shittier toys for better ones (the original planned version of Double Trouble is pretty lame. She never appeared in anything IIRC, but the design ain't great.)

Kevin Smith kinda did the same thing with his He-Man show where the point was like, how he would take the story, immediately breaking the status quo to do something more engaging with it. The main difference is that his show is explicitly a follow-up, She-Ra was a full reboot.

Edited by Zendervai on Apr 28th 2022 at 4:18:32 AM

Not Three Laws compliant.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#4433: Apr 28th 2022 at 1:19:37 PM

but no dragons!

no doom berry pie,no She ra crying over Hordak so he does'nt vanish forever (Catra made the pie)

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#4434: Apr 28th 2022 at 1:57:29 PM

I mean, let's face it, can you expect in 2018 show that goes exactly like something from 1985?

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#4435: Apr 28th 2022 at 2:19:17 PM

Not exactly the same, no, but from what I remember He-Man fans really liked the 2002 show and thought it was a good adaptation. I doubt She-Ra fans would complain if they got something similar to that.

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SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#4436: Apr 28th 2022 at 3:26:39 PM

Honestly, I've only seen screenshots of OG She-ra, and I can already safely say that SPOP is superior purely on the basis that each character actually looks unique instead of literally the exact same woman in a slightly different set of clothes.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#4437: Apr 28th 2022 at 5:16:03 PM

I think is intersting Shadow weaver did a sacrifice when she is by far the more petty and selfish person.

"There is a difference between self-sacrifice for a cause or a person you truly believe in and self-sacrifice for something that has been imposed on you. "

The diferent between one and the other often is dificult to see.

And about catra, I havent finish the whole thing but I can get why is a dificult subject, Catra can be....unpleasent at times.

The best way for me is someone fused Azula and Zuko into one being.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#4438: Apr 28th 2022 at 8:59:53 PM

Reminder that the best way to think of Catra is that she's a housecat, with all the benefits and disadvantages that come with one. Very loving to the person she likes, an asshole to those she doesn't, never forgets a slight and carries that grudge forever.

alanh Since: May, 2010
#4439: Apr 28th 2022 at 9:03:11 PM

The OG female characters had the exact same bodies so that Mattel didn't have to use a different body mold for different character dolls. They just changed the heads and accessories.

SomeNewGuy Since: Jun, 2009
#4440: Apr 28th 2022 at 10:00:16 PM

Exactly. At the end of the day, OG She-Ra was primarily trying to sell a toy line. SPOP, by contrast, actually wants to tell an actual story with depth and character.

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#4441: Apr 28th 2022 at 10:50:36 PM

Just because the main goal is to sell toys doesn't necessarily mean a story will suck. Friendship is Magic was also supposed to sell toys. There were some very seasoned writers in the OG She-Ra cast.

Both He-Man and She-Ra having to not have a definitive conclusion I'd say hurt both shows more than the shows being there to sell merch.

Edited by PhiSat on Apr 28th 2022 at 11:51:32 AM

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#4442: Apr 28th 2022 at 11:46:34 PM

@Resileafs I've seen this comparison many times and while fitting it does jack squat to justify your actions. She's a person not a goddamn pet.

Also, Catra is also terrible to people she likes.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#4443: Apr 29th 2022 at 1:02:27 AM

She's a person with some very pet-like traits and behaviors, though. That's not really something you can ignore.

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#4444: Apr 29th 2022 at 1:05:50 AM

That sounds racist. Specist?

Maybe Scorpia should just betray everyone for no reason because she's a scorpion.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#4445: Apr 29th 2022 at 2:30:22 AM

Very funny. But you know it is true. She behaves like a cat in many ways.

You bring up an interesting point, though: she seems to be the only animal cross who does so. It's probably because people are so familiar with the behavior of cats, while they wouldn't really know what a sentient lizard or scorpion would be like.

Also, I'm pretty sure Scorpia accidentally reflexively stung someone once.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#4446: Apr 29th 2022 at 2:45:59 AM

[up]she seen very clumsy and very self away of her clumsiness so....yeah I can see it.

What she clearly dosent have is scorpion terrible eye sight.

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#4447: Apr 29th 2022 at 3:13:06 AM

Well, ND Stevenson herself has noted that while Catra is complex character, she's also literally just a cat.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#4448: Apr 29th 2022 at 3:22:43 AM

....Now I just imagine Adora resolving the whole plot by spraying catra with water saying "No catra, bad, stop hurting people".

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#4449: Apr 29th 2022 at 3:32:02 AM

Spraying cats doesn't actually teach them to behave better, just to fear getting caught.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#4450: Apr 29th 2022 at 4:23:59 AM

[up]So that is what shadow weaver did.....

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