Misused: The Jail Bait Wait

From No Real Life Examples, Please!:

The Content Policy and the 5P Circuit:

The works in question invite the audience to sexualize real life people who are (almost) of legal age.

So, no; I don't think "as long as we can cite and link to where they made the attempt (attribute it, that is), then the trope can be listed." I think writing those examples encourage the "practice of adults keeping a countdown until an attractive underage celebrity turns eighteen".

edited 23rd Aug '17 9:12:19 AM by crazysamaritan

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Legitimate examples concerning real people would be things like websites that provide countdowns, memes, and other things that we treat as works. inadmissible examples would be the simple statement that "so-and-so is hot and hoo-boy, if she were legal..." and the like.

"Nearly 18" is not, by any stretch, "pre-teen or younger", either, so that part of the P5 policy is irrelevant.

The Jail Bait Wait should also require that the person doing the waiting actually intends to act once the other is of age, not just a random stranger fantasizing about them.

edited 23rd Aug '17 3:08:04 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

So, any opposition to broadening this to cover any kind of wait until someone is of acceptable age?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

You mean for non-sexual stuff? Like being old enough to drive or old enough to vote or out of high school? Yes. I object. That's so vague as to make this useless, and make the name misleading.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Anything like 'your too young to drink I will just wait till your older' type thing would be a sister trope to this.

No, not non sexual stuff. Should have worded it more precisely.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

General "waiting till you're older/taller/stronger/have finished X" is either a Missing Supertrope, or Chairs. I'd say "chairs" personally.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

OK. I'm still not sure what you're proposing to expand it to, then. This trope name is specific to waiting until the legal age of consent (or a culturally-acceptable age, in cases where "legal age of consent" doesn't exist) is reached before beginning a sexual or sexualized interaction, in order to avoid punishment (again, legal if there are legal ages, social ostrcization or censure if there aren't).

It doesn't matter what the sexual relationship is. What matters is that it is sexual, and that it's delayed or avoided specifically due to the age of the younger one, with the full intent of the older that it will start as soon as the appropriate age is reached..

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

The one you proposed here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Oh. No, I have no objection to using that one.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Yeah, Lady Irma has summoned my old interest for natural disasters and I can't think clearly since yesterday at least.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

So, since this seems to be a simple fix: Does anyone disagree with Madrugada's proposed definition change?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Wait-a-second... That would still make the examples of the [Magazine] and [Radio] folders misuse because they're all random strangers fantasizing about people or feature non-sexual actions.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

I think that's the point.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.

I don't know if it's mentioned but the examples with Americans in other places with a lower AOC are still valid.

AFIAK it's actually illegal to cross state or international lines, or transport anyone over them for the purpose skirting age of consent laws in the US. So an American citizen from a state with a AOC of 18 going to Europe and screwing a 16 year old would still be illegal.

edited 13th Jan '18 11:33:39 PM by shoboni

Requesting comment on Madrugada's soluton again. I also think that asking people to figure out how exactly the law works in any particular polity is probably asking too much.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Agreed. If an older character says to a younger one, "call me when you're 17!" it doesn't matter whether 17 is the precise legal AOC in their area. The spirit of the trope is clearly in play.

No, circumventing the law doesn't match the trope of "waiting until sexual acts are legal".

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Bumping since there is a crowner now.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

... The crowner options, if there any, aren't showing up here.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

Pretty sure crowners are still broken.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.

Yes, that one's over here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

There appears to be no objection to it.

Should it be called?

This looks decided. A bit more moderation would be appreciated.