Yu-Gi-Oh! Vrains

Speaking of effect damage, Blue Angel's Trickstar deck, which we will see in due time but has already been released in the actual game, absolutely loves going first, since they can damage you for every little thing if they summon their stuff. With the right hand, they can make you insta-lose at the start of your turn.

Example 1-minute video showing this.

edited 17th May '17 12:16:53 AM by burnpsy

I played against that deck online once. Any one know a good therapist?

edited 17th May '17 6:48:26 AM by RedRob

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet Unless I grew it. In that case, throw it in the trash.

Damn. Tricksters sound absolutely brutal.

So on paper, Blue Angel is pretty strong then. But...well, she's a female character in Yugioh.

Even if she starts strong, the plot is gonna require her to start losing eventually.

One Strip! One Strip!

The anime will probably completely miss the things that make the deck strong and instead focus on her Link monster.

It gains ATK by the amount of burn damage inflicted, among other things. Not as tough to fight, but it fits.

Well, they do have to make the duels somewhat fair, so I can get that.

It's far less interesting if she just instantly curb stomps some dude on the first turn.

Unless it's some mook, then it'll be ok.

One Strip! One Strip!

Dedicated burn decks are for villains. Like Lotten/Rotten. Heroes get to use only incidental burn damage and then win by having their ace monster attack.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!

That's a really dumb thing to go by.

What makes it so villainous anyway?

Edit: Not insulting you or anything. I just think it's unfair for a perfectly viable strategy to be seen as villainous, while the heroes just get to ass pull their way to victory.

edited 17th May '17 11:04:12 AM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!

Search me. No worries, I understood your context.

edited 17th May '17 11:05:43 AM by Eagal

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!

Watched the new episode.

Speed Duels are somehow even more bullshit enabling than Action Duels. We not only have the Skills, which are basically cardless Action Cards, but also the Storm Access. Well, at least the Storm Access cards will make it into the real game, so it's less bad.

Oh boy, so they weren't just gonna keep the gimmick as basic as possible. my hopes for the duels are steadily declining.

So all I'm getting from this show is "BUY LINK MONSTERS!" and "DOWNLOAD DUEL LINKS!". Yeah, no thanks Yu-Gi-Oh! Vrains. Gonna pass up on you.

@Rob: I guess the idea is that heroes should face their opponents head on, and Burn strategies would be "underhanded", or something like that.

Wake me up at your own risk.

It sounds like it.

This is why people root for the empire.

edited 17th May '17 12:31:28 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!

Better suggestion: Burn is boring as all hell. Even Lotten's burn deck got dialed back because ending the duel in one turn does not make a fun spectacle.

Huh.

Never looked at it that way.

...no. wait...

I actually did mention that earlier in the thread. That's the meta reason though. The in-universe reason is really shitty, and basically vilifies a valid strategy.

One Strip! One Strip!

There isn't an in-universe reason, because we were never given one. There only exists a meta reason.

The only times people make others out to 'not be true duelists' is when they blatantly cheat or are disrespectful in general.

Played Duel Links once. Got pretty boring as it was just beatdown to win. Pretty sure the only ones who play it are nostalgiafags. As much as I hate Link Monsters for crippling the game, they would still be more fun to play than Duel Links.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet Unless I grew it. In that case, throw it in the trash.

Duel links is fine for what it is. I've played it too, and it may not be my cup of tea, but I can see the appeal for others.

I mean, I would just ignore it, but considering Konami is turning the anime into an adaptation of it, I'm starting to think it won't be a good influence on the franchise.

On another note, a card called Encode Talker was announced and people are thinking the "Talkers" are going to be the monster forms of the A.I.s. Speaking of, someone on the subreddit pointed there was six A.I.s, with six letters in VRAINS, and Ignis starts with an I, so there's a theory each AI is going to have their names start with one of those six letters. Considering there were also those six birds in the OP, I see the Talker theory to be likely.

Also, here's a link to the cards Revolver uses. https://ygorganization.com/vjmp-circuit-break/ Gun Dragons, that don't rely on shitty coin tosses. At least we know the logic behind his name now.

edited 17th May '17 1:06:59 PM by RedRob

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet Unless I grew it. In that case, throw it in the trash.

On an unrelated note, today's V-Jump revealed the Revolver's cards. The Main Deck monster are bullet dragons (the Vullet monsters) while the Link Monster is a gun dragon (Varrel Lord Dragon). Cute pun. I also like that the Vullets send themselves to the grave to activate their effects and the anime will most likely represent that as the bullets being shot.

My understanding from seeing others discuss the episode is that Skills are unique to the characters and can only be used once or twice per duel. I never had an issue with Action Cards but Skills sounds like they're less bullshit than Action Cards since they can only be used under certain circumstances and are limited in how many times they can be used while with Action Cards the only limit was a time limit and even that was often ignored.

Yeah, if the Speed Duel has only the Skills or only the Storm Access, I wouldn't complain, but the two put together along with smaller field and hand is a little bit too much.

Also, I now noticed that with Speed Duel field, Yusaku can't go into Firewall Dragon with evolving another Link Monster.

I would just link to point out that Speed Duel rules first appeared back in the Synchro era for Duel Terminal. This isn't necessarily a Duel Links ad.

I'm willing to give some of the new anime rules the benefit of the doubt until we see how they'll handle it in general. This episode simply needed to introduce all of the rules so we can call bullshit now and not necessarily later.

We also don't know how often they'll have a Data Storm to play on, with the new rules. Note that some of Decode Talker's arrows go off the board as things stand.

BUT YOU STILL TAKE DAMAGE!

edited 17th May '17 7:42:08 PM by burnpsy

I know about the Duel Terminals. That actually makes Vrains more or a Duel Links ad.

Speed Duels were also used for their newest 3DS game and were introduced IRL. You don't have much room to argue that. It's Konami's fourth attempt at an alrernate format after Traditional, that format where Pegasus changes tthe rules arbitrarily at random, and Generation Duels. They're advertising their new format, not the mobile game. Only people who already downloaded Duel Links know it uses an alternative format.

And you complained that the episode was advertising Links, but how is this any different from every other opening duel in the series after GX in that regard? #BuySynchros #BuyXyz #BuyPendulum

edited 17th May '17 4:35:35 PM by burnpsy