I love his videos, and how his off-beat sense of humor makes the complex and nuanced analysis of really serious and horrifying subjects easily digestible !
I also really like how he tries to engage with the Right and really tries to understand opposing points of views, but dares to be controversial, with his garish persona, constant mocking of "edgelord"'s You Tube channels, and occasionally his willingness to adopt a position that's positively reviled in trendiest social justice circles.
Plus, I love all these running jokes: - Shrine to Anita - Moloch - Mommy ! - Try the wine ! - Baby, I'm sorry...
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Does anyone know why Contrapoints's latest video was taken down? It was a pretty great video about free speech.
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I'd guess someone flagged it as spam or somesuch. Maybe some alt-right mob or adjacents.
I do have a bone to pick with the video though. I am sympathetic to Rubin's style and position so I might be making my statement too easy to dismiss, but the point of equating callouts of racist and mysogynist speech with speech and attitudes that silence marginalized groups rang a bit hollow to me. Not becuase the argument that you sometimes have to forgo someone's freedom of speech becuase their speech is by itself silencing of others is in any way invalid. But because I feel they have snuck a bit of straw in their steelman: The call to stop using racist and sexist to shut down speakers is not the same as asking people to stop using language that hurts the feelings of sexists and racists. Not all speakers confronted with protests and disinvitation are provocateurs looking to get a rise out of liberals and progressives by being awful, so lumping their calls to not be silenced with cries of "sexist racist" with the likes of Milo and Ann Coulter is not proper, in my view.
edited 2nd Jun '17 10:10:13 PM by vandro
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Continuation of the free-speech series.
So, I just found out Contra has a secondary channel
that is quite interesting. It is their streaming content, I guess, so a lot of gaming stuff. But what really interested me are the ones with them looking at their older videos and commenting over it. Quite an interesting insight in how their opinions and style changed over time.
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This isn't a video Contra made but they posted it on their channel due to it being taken down from Shaun and Jen's channel. I don't know who they are but I've heard people in the comments section of Contra's previous videos mention them positively, so I assume they're similarly themed YouTubers.
Now, this does make me begin thinking of something quite annoying in regards to both Shaun and Jen's channel and Contra's own channel: there's evidently been a lot of flagging to remove these videos from You Tube. What's making this excruciatingly frustrating is how this is blatant censorship by the alt right to silence these left wing YouTubers and critics of their views. Ironic how people who shout about their "free speech" are censoring others from their views. I wonder how long until people weave conspiracies about how Contra and other similar left wing YouTubers are being "professional victims" and making shit up or something.
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I highly recommend Shaun and Jen. It's a great channel. The freeze peach warriors don't care about people other than them being silenced, they just want to say whatever edgy bullshit pops from their head.
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Looking at Shaun's Twitter, the video was flagged for...hate speech.
The video itself is a critique of the entire "White genocide" bullshit the alt right likes to prop up, by the way.
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edited 29th Jul '17 9:36:26 AM by Pachylad
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Bump for relevance: Contra has said last week that she'll go by she/they pronouns from now on.
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That is one pretty, pretty woman.
edited 15th Aug '17 1:09:24 PM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.
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Woman.
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It's fine, she's only been coming out recently.
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It's a lot more serious, too. Possibly because she is playing these arguments over and over in her own head. It's heavy stuff and even a little uncomfortable for me.
Yeah hard to watch. I never actually watched the "Debating the Alt-Right" video did it also have the neutral well one person attacks the other going on and kind of enjoying it interviewer?
edited 18th Aug '17 2:06:27 PM by phantom1
It's a spoof on Dave Rubin, a You Tuber who proclaims to be "classically liberal" but mainly has right wing loons on his show and never challenges them.
Anyway, the Alt-Right video is hilarious because she plays a sexy TOTALLY NOT A NAZI person acros from a very stereotypically Jewish person and the whole thing is basically treated as a joke. You know, Antisemitic conspiracy theories are horrible and wrong but they're also so absurd they make great fodder for jokes.
Here's the video though.
The main joke of that video was on Rubin who is full of shit about being neutral. The TERF video though was clearly focused on the character of Abigail who is not nearly as funny here as she is in other videos. (because TER Fs aren't funny and when you express their views in a straightforward manner, that's very apparent)
edited 18th Aug '17 3:10:53 PM by Nikkolas
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There was also an argument (which Contra later clarified in her Twitter) about how if we are going to debate the alt-right we need better rhetoric (or simply not debating them), since the style of debate employed by the Saul character isn't good against fascists and only makes us look like idiots, even if we're completely right.
Ah ok yeah the focus was more on the TERF, though she did imply the host character was literally getting off on it, so there is that. Though yeah much more of a focus ("you're getting emotional" "don't call her a Nazi" etc, than outright admitting having sympathies with Fritz).
edited 18th Aug '17 5:36:05 PM by phantom1
So hbomberguy has his thread and while he's great, I have to always rep for all-time favorite feminist SJW beta cuck mangina.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ContraPoints
Contra is a transgender You Tuber who pretty much talks exclusively about politics in a comical, entertaining way. Her videos have really jumped in quality since I first started watching them but even still, this was the first video I ever saw of hers so it holds a special place in my heart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fR6g9CDMsA
Before I found this video, I was honest-to-god depressed at the state of You Tube. I thought it was nothing but flagrantly racist, misogynistic bullies. Then someone linked CP to me and through her I found out there is hope after all. There are a lot of great and humane people just like her who fight this.
This is my absolute favorite video of hers:
So, yep. What else is there to say? Come in, post about your views of her politics, whether you give her a 9 or 10 in terms of Hotness, that kind of thing.
edited 18th Aug '17 12:22:08 PM by Nikkolas