Live Action Lion King Movie

I haven't seen the Lion King sequel in awhile, but Simba was kind of a jerk in that one. I'm sure if his daughter hadn't stopped him, he'd have become like Scar.

I.. didn't see that at all. All he did was banish Zira to the outlands for siding with Scar (you know the guy who killed Simba's dad and made Simba think he was the one responsible) and the war that occurs in the climax is instigated by Zira. Simba even gives her one last chance to back off. There really is nothing remotely resembling Scar about him in that movie. Hell, he was right about Kovu being sent to assassinate him.

Scar's problem was that he wanted the power but not the responsibility, his lack of management was why Pride Rock turned into a wasteland. Simba's problem in the sequel was a diametric opposite, he became too much of a hardliner that he ended up creating dissent. Although initially it was a lose/lose, he banished Zira and her followers because she was a Scar supporter, allowing her to stay would also have consequences. Once Zira's toxic influence was gone allowing the exiled back in was more manageable.

My idea was that Simba filled in Killmonger's role as the young exile of the royal family left to fend for himself after his uncle killed his father, while Kovu would fill in T'Challa's role as the son of the deceased king who has to deal with the sins of his father and stop the monster his family created.

Again, the analogy isn't perfect.

Edited by chasemaddigan on May 31st 2019 at 10:41:01 AM

Killmonger wasn't being raise by a gay couple.

I wonder if they'll fix the ending with Kiara. The cub in the original film was obviously a male. But, if they make it Kiara, doesn't that canonize Simba's Pride in a way? They should go all out and fix the Outsiders then; make them background extras at least.

In what way was the original cub obviously male?

The cub looked identical to baby Simba?

The Lion King distinguishes male cubs from female by little design quirks. Males have ear tips and whiskers. Fluffy/Kopa/whatever had characteristics of a male cub, which Kiara lacks.

We hear Beyonce's Nala in new TV spot

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Wow.

I knew we were in for a ride when we finally really got to see character speak.

But...

Oof.

Young Simba speaks in international trailer

oh wow

that is rough

That clip of Timon and Puumba does not give me high hopes for them or Zazu as comic relief

For fucks sake it’s like they can’t emote.

Maybe they're just keeping the speaking sections at a minimum rate for advertising? We saw what happened with the Genie for Aladdin (2019)...

With a month left, they can apply finishing touches for VFX, right? Or is the editing the top priority as the days go by?

Edited by The12thDoctor on Jun 7th 2019 at 7:56:50 PM

It can be hard to make photo-realistic animals talk. I've seen similar issues with some Warriors fan-artists. The key to not reaching the Uncanny Valley is to make them just stylized enough. Noodlers is a good example of blending realism with stylization; their designs are cattish but not too much.

Alternatively, have characters speak without moving their lips. Plenty of animal media just have the animals looking like they're speaking telepathically.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Jun 7th 2019 at 3:21:16 AM

Oh, you mean like the thought collars in Up.

What we've seen in all these spots for The Lion King remake, well, it’s a different kind of animation from the 1994 film, and I feel this new kind of animation is...lazy. But I am not criticizing the animators there. They're just doing their jobs, and it’s the producers and directors who decided the animation budget and the amount of effort needed to create the movie. Seriously, I could watch a BBC documentary on lions and get more emotional reactions out of the lions in that than what I’ve seen of any of the characters in the trailers of this supposedly epic and emotional story.

I feel like I'm reading emotion in the characters as seen here. It's much more subtle than in traditional animation—but that makes sense to me.

I do note, that, as The12th Doctor said, the trailers don't seem to have included many clear shots of characters talking; they seem to be leaning on actions, voice-overs, and only brief glimpses of the characters' faces, for the most part.

But I do think that Scar looked intimidating; young Simba running from him looked scared; Rafiki looked pensive in that one close-up; and so on.

Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Jun 7th 2019 at 5:51:12 PM

Beyonce and Donald Glover singing Can You Feel the Love Tonight[1] in new TV spot

That sure is a Can You Feel the Love Tonight cover, alright.

Tickets go on sale tomorrow[1]

I kinda wish the other live action remakes like Dumbo had gone for the full on 3D effect,at least there it might preserve some the cartonnyness of the original film.

Not surprised with how well it's doing with ticket sales. #1 [1] when it comes to the Disney remakes and #2 of the year[2]beat only by Avengers: Endgame

Edited by ComicFan on Jun 25th 2019 at 4:01:35 AM

That’s the power of Lion King nostalgia for you.

I've been pretty bad at predicting box-office results this year. But one prediction I made was that The Lion King 2019 was going to be the highest-grossing film of July. I'm honestly not going to be surprised if it outdoes Spider-Man: Far From Home, even with that film directly following the heels of Endgame.