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Deadlock Clock: Feb 11th 2017 at 11:59:00 PM
dotchan Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Aug 21st 2016 at 9:59:47 PM

I believe Technically a Smile overlaps with The Unsmile too much for them to be separate tropes. They should merge and be the same thing. If you believe otherwise, please convince me and then fix the muddling that's going on.

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#2: Aug 22nd 2016 at 6:25:06 AM

Checked their laconics, and the only difference is that Technically a Smile involves teeth baring. Looks to be The Same But More Specific.

Viable enough to open for discussion.

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DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Aug 22nd 2016 at 7:03:43 AM

The laconics are the same. The main descriptions seem to point to the difference as a character smiling in a manner that appears insincere vs a character trying and failing to smile at all. Or in other words, Technically a Smile is still, technically, a smile. Whereas The Unsmile is most definitely not.

Still doesn't seem like much of a distinction to me.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#4: Aug 22nd 2016 at 7:06:49 AM

Checking what it seems like they're supposed to be, there's a bit of a difference.

Technically a Smile is what looks like a smile, but isn't meant to evoke any of those feelings.

The Unsmile is a smile, genuine or attempted, that's meant to evoke the feelings of a natural (human) smile, but evokes anything but.

They really seem more like opposites to me, but poorly written, and probably with tons of misuse (haven't checked).

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#5: Jan 7th 2017 at 11:51:07 PM

Clock is set.

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Getta Since: Apr, 2016
#6: Jan 8th 2017 at 2:26:27 AM

Too subtle of a difference, to be honest. In practice, I mean.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#7: Jan 8th 2017 at 9:33:58 AM

I disagree that it's too subtle to be different. The Unsmile is someone trying to smile and failing, for any of a number of reasons; the result is not necessarily "threatening"; The page image is a good example — Sheldon is trying to smile, but simply doesn't know how to do so at will.

. Technically a Smile is when the "smile" is when the mouth is in the proper position for a broad smile, but the teeth are n't simply showing a bit, they're bared in a threatening way. The page image is not very good; This is more what the trope is talking about (Florence is genuinely happy and smiling, but —she's a wolf. The same thing we'd call a smile looks like a threat, even though it's not usually)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/flosmiles.jpg

She does it again — and she knows that she's doing it, even though she's not trying to: https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/flosmiles2.jpg

edited 8th Jan '17 2:49:33 PM by Madrugada

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Getta Since: Apr, 2016
#8: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:59:30 PM

[up] By what you said, wouldn't Technically a Smile be The Unsmile by having the subject trying to smile and "failing for any of a number of reasons" - specifically, looking threatening instead?

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#9: Feb 8th 2017 at 1:07:38 AM

Clock is ticking.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#10: Feb 12th 2017 at 3:20:04 PM

Clock expired; closing.

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