Fate/Grand Order

I love how no one acknowledges that Eli has event going on right now.

Sweet, managed to roll Artoria after three tickets, so at least she hits a little harder now. Now to just wait for tonight to try and do the same for Lartoria, then I'll be happy with the campaign.

edit: Honestly, I'm more than fine with that, considering that after this Lizzie event we're getting the third one not long after. Save up the Lizzie conversations for that.

Edited by ITNW1989 on Sep 19th 2019 at 9:35:23 AM

Well, I'm really enjoying having a Caster node for tickets so far. Having Rider da Vinci definitely helps. I don't know what it'll be switching to later, but I'll get as many boxes as I can before that.

Doubleposting to say good lord, is Dumuzid a salty hunk of mutton.

"I dreamed I was drowning in an ocean of materials. It was only a dream, though."

(With no CE reward) "Someday you'll think back on this roll and cry."

(no CE) "In times of hardship and suffering, simply call out my name. Nothing will happen."

Before rolling: "Do you have a bad feeling about this? Don't worry. You're just delusional."

Guys, did I really need to put a Joking Mode tag on the "Ancient Sumerian DRM" line for you to realize that I was being facetious about that? Also, Raineh's quotation from the anime guide says outright...

"It alone is a completely unique existence that can only be possessed by Gilgamesh. Therefore, even with Unlimited Blade Works, it is impossible to reproduce it."

Nothing is said about it being impossible to reproduce because there's something "alien" about it - it can't be reproduced because it's a "unique existence", something that can "only be possessed by Gilgamesh". That's what I mean when I joke about "Ancient Sumerian DRM".

As for the Excalibur replication, I've seen another translator elsewhere go over the scene - she says that Mirror-Moon's translation was shaky on the relevant line (among several others). What EMIYA is saying is that he cannot exactly reproduce Excalibur, but with what he can manage through UBW, he can create something close, with similar functions. However, to actually fire the beam off would kill him to do. It seems that it's this aspect that the conditions within Moon Cell changes - making it just within his ability to actually produce and use Excalibur Image without killing himself.

IIRC, Shirou's situation in Heaven's Feel was that, fire it off or not, once he projected one more thing, he was going to die anyway. So he projected that 'something close' to deliver the final blow.

There's a lot of old fanon spread around the Type-Moon fandom - whether from early fandom theories that have been around so long people have forgotten they were unconfirmed theories, to old misinterpretations of official statements or in-story lines, to taking in-universe ungrounded guesses as concrete fact (this one is where the claim that the voice Jeanne heard was the Counter Force - that was someone who had just heard about the Counter Force providing a hypothetical), to mistranslations that cause people to believe certain rules exist that never actually were a thing (this one is where the old claim that there aren't supposed to be Heroic Spirits from within the last ~100 years comes from - the line form Rin is supposed to be her giving examples of eras that Heroic Spirits could come from, not limits on when they can come from).

Edited by Tsuzurao on Sep 19th 2019 at 11:24:00 AM

Beat the terrain trio. That was terrible. Glad it's over.

Aaaaaand Mirror-Moon screws up once again.

Eh, the thing that makes me think that there's something wrong about Ea is that it elicits the same response in UBW that, say, the Aristotles are supposed to with the MEoDP: it just doesn't. If it was that Shirou simply couldn't replicate it, then that's the unique existence part. But he can't analyse it. Every other weapon (and many other things beside) can have their structure and history examined, then possibly replicated.

Ea it just goes "nope, turning off now".

But at that point you're it's just going in circles. Is it intrinsically alien to even magical senses because it's the crystallisation of something so old, or is that part of being a unique existence belonging to the first hero? It's too old and alien all the same.

Check his new voicelines, he's making sure to out-gold Ozy. Though no, really, shooting golden weapons is pretty consistent with everything else.

Edited by RainehDaze on Sep 19th 2019 at 12:03:53 PM

oh shit I can probably actually pull off this Arjuna Alter cheese strat for the Jaguar quest

I just need to MLB the damage CE and see if I can compensate for my inability to cram in one final CE

My guess is that it's because Shirou's analysis is itself 'part of the process to recreate something within Unlimited Blade Works'. Ea can neither be duplicated, nor wielded by someone other than Gilgamesh, so Unlimited Blade Works can't analyze it, because if it did acquire that data, a replica of Ea would therefore exist within Shirou's inner world.

It be funny if there is or was a text that predates Gilgamesh as the first hero.

It's implied that Gramps actually is older than Gil, being the sumerian version of Noah, or the angel of Death incarnated as a human being, but he was never actually recorded as such.

Gil is rather deferential towards him, though, which is alarming in itself.

Actually if you take the grander angelic lore into account there are Seven Archangels of Death. Along with Azrael there's Sariel, Michael, Samael, and welp I forgot the rest.

I heard about the rest, but Michael is a surprise, him being The Paladin and all.

I'm guessing that's something unique to his portrayal in Islam?

Whether Gramps is older and genuinely using the name or just able to get away with it is a mystery. But Gramps is supposed to be ambiguous like that, because he's a heroic spirit for founding a cult some several thousand years after all this.

Whether there's older literature IRL or evidence should place some hero beforehand, they don't get to count for Fate.

Maybe think of it in a Don't Fear the Reaper way?

Slowly, the event grinds away at my sanity.

Gil got his last four levels, Enkidu got from 59-90, Luvia got from 1-80, and Abby's gone from 90 to 100.

And yet I'm still going.

Lotteries are truly evil.

Edited by RainehDaze on Sep 19th 2019 at 3:02:06 PM

Hang in there! Think of your silvers and bronzes!

spent my uso's to get my final copy of cleo! no money wasted and I can focus on shimosa and halloween 3.

I'm getting closer to having all of my Servants, if not maxed fully, then at least maxed within their current ascension. It should make ascending characters much less overwhelming.

What is this "maxing everyone". I just had nothing to do today, so farmed 25 more boxes.

In terms of relevance, it's just reaching the standard maximum level for any and all Servants we have.

This does include adding fous to them as well.

Edited by VoidsEmpathy on Sep 19th 2019 at 11:00:42 AM

Minus the golden Fous.

It was a joke.

Yeah, though I'm not doing it for most of them. Just getting them to 30 or so, so the level up screen doesn't show them with the Max Level filter on.