Miraculous Ladybug

Also, that cutaway to Hawkmoth being the only one watching the fight on tv was my favorite gag all season. "I wouldn't miss this for the world!"

The silliness of Gabriel then having to run to the fight to keep it from going south, and then openly monologuing on a city street, just made it all the better.

It's sometime worth keeping Hawk Moth as dull as possible, because every time now he deviates from his routine it's either interesting or friggin hilarious.

I just find it hilarious they used the pilot music video footage

That almost makes me want Adrien to go to Japan just to teach Marinette a lesson.

I really liked the unholy alliance between Chloe and Marinette, too. I assume we're going to get a bit more of it involving Lila as well, especially since one of the upcoming episodes has Lila getting Kagami akumatized.

One of my favorite things about Hawkmoth is that he's kind of a loser if you really think about it.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 14th 2019 at 12:16:10 PM

Well, that was a very fun episode. Astruc also gave himself one of the better ppwersets. I love shape shifting and Worm would classify him as a high rating Changer Trump, which is really good.

Oblivio:

Honestly the thing that caught my attention the most was the fact that Hawkmoth was able to fuse two people into a single person - I mean, sure. Yadda yadda finds out each other's true identities, yadda yadda kiss, yadda yadda all undone by the end, but... he can do that? Also why did he do that, beyond the fun of us, the audience, not knowing the truth of the akuma being part of the overall mystery?

I mean, he already turned multiple people into a set of hive minded villains, but...

Also, another oddity, Oblivio refers to themselves as Ladybug and Cat Noir's "best friend," which I know is a sly way of letting us, the audience, know who they really are, but it's still weird. Likewise, Nino and Alya seem to remember a little more about what happened than victims normally do.

And yeah, just for the sake of noting it, a villain who is a formerly akumatized person getting akumatized into something different. And also the first person/people to have been a superhero and get akumatized while keeping a secret identity, which is also odd because Oblivio should have probably told Hawkmoth Rena Rouge and Carapace's identities, and wait maybe I'm overthinking this...

Nerdy overthinking aside, one of my favorite episodes this season.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 18th 2019 at 12:56:16 PM

They didn't told him anything, because he didn't asked? Backwarder wasn't just spilling Fu trivia.

Villain wasn't that interesting. They get a bit cheap on designs in this season and most of his tricks (giant ball of death over Paris) were done before. But hey, he was more of a means to the end so it was worth it. Besides, I'll take anyone who isn't another mind controller. Fun fact: Literally now comes out movie called Adventure Masters. From Here to Oblivio and I'm bet that Ladybug killed any search visibility it might have had.

There is always question with these amnesia stories, what do you exactly remember? Do you know how to tie your shoes or ride a bike? How about movies, do you remember Star Wars or recent stuff like Infinity War? Question is especially obvious in this episode when kwamis don't know what kwamis are.

Admiteddly, Marinette is probably so good at phone hacking from all the times she stole one.

Gee, I wonder why Hawk Moth wasn't on that movie poster. Right, because his anime look was...let's say different.

Ironically, Ladybug and Cat Noir never get akumatized, while Alya, Chloe and Nino get a lot.

But yeah, definitely one of the strongest episodes.

I think that episode established that Marinette is the only real obstacle in them having a relationship.

Marinette's grasp on logic is so tenous sometimes, that it looks like she is looking for reasons to freak out and jump back.

The fact that it took them, like, a half hour to fall in love once all the drama was taken away is rather hilarious, yeah.

So I watched this show for a while, but gave up midway through season 2 because it was too repetitive and formulaic. Well that, and the fact that there were such huge breaks in between episodes.

Did this show ever get better after that? Or is it still the same?

It's still incredibly formulaic, yes. Generally, the show devotes itself to Monster of the Week episodes, and only really moves plot and characters forward during special events.

If you like the formula, it's fine. But it's not the best show for someone who prefers their series more arc-centric.

I don't even necessarily need an arc. I'm fine with stand alone stories, but that doesn't mean it has to be the same thing every episode.

Maybe they could have an episode where Ladybug and Cat Noir fight a villain that has no connection to Hawkmoth. Because, you know, crime exists. The show gives the impression that if it weren't for Hawkmoth Paris would be crime free.

They could also maybe have an episode where Cat Noir isn't involved at all (maybe because he's on a trip somewhere, or because Marrinette can't contact him for some reason), so its just Ladybug going solo. Or have Hawkmoth come up with a different method, like actually hiring a soldier or mercenary to fight for him, at least once. Or even an episode where Marrinete time travels to the past somehow. These are just examples of stuff they could do.

Instead, its just the same thing every episode. Someone has some problem that upsets them, Hawkmoth does his "fly away my little Akuma, and evilize them" speech, the person becomes a mind-controlled supervillain. Ladybug and Cat team up and exchange banter and kid friendly flirting, Ladybug uses Lucky Charm (which conveniently undoes any damage, so no consequences), defeats the bad guy. Then "No more evil doing for you little Akuma", followed by "Bye bye little butterfly", followed by Hawkmoth saying "next time Ladybug and Cat Noir, victory will be mine", followed by silly epilogue. I just described the plot of almost every episode of the show.

I can understand having some repetitive elements, but what I just described just smacks of laziness and putting in only the bare minimum effort. I'm not expecting this show to be Avatar: The Last Airbender, but some actual effort and creativity would be nice.

Anyway... Not trying to rain on anyone's parade that actually likes the show for what it is, just explaining why I felt the need to drop it.

you should watch oblivio. It starts in medias res, and is arguably the most anti-forumula epsiode so far.

It just the occurred to me that Adrien’s originally intended name (and, according to the upcoming episode summaries, the name of his cousin) “Felix” was likely intended to be a reference.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 6th 2019 at 7:29:18 AM

Eh, not necessarily. Considering that "Felix" means "lucky" and sounds very close to "felis" which means "cat," it's got enough thematic ties to be appropriate without referencing anything.

Nee episode dropped.More Luka. A villain that steals voices is a pain when all your magic powers are voice-activated. Also interesting in that Silencer saying "Lucky Charm" with Ladybug's voice allowed her to actually summon it. Also Luka technically confesses to Marinette but their relationship got all of two epiaodes of development so I don't care that much

I think that was first episode where Ladybug was cursed and CN not (well, much longer anyway). Luka's costume wasn't bad, thought I probably wasn't the only one who expected more of a pretty boy villain, like Evilustrator. I can't believe they wanted use to take hand puppets seriously. Anyway, Cat Noir shouting "Lucky Charm" makes it 10/10 episode.

I'm glad they busted Bob Roth afterward, since what he did was criminal too.

I'm currently on vacation in Paris, and decided to see what France's Netflix is like. Surprisingly, they don't have season 2 of Ladybug at all. It seems like Netflix only got season 2 for the US for some reason.

Edited by storyyeller on Apr 26th 2019 at 3:02:40 PM

Two episodes episodes came out in French, both pretty good. Collection of random thoughts:

I liked both villains, even with both being on the opposide side of Ladybug spectrum (Bakerix being silly and fun and Onichan being badass and cool looking.)

On the hero part though, one was great episode was Marinette (Plucky Girl at her finest) and the other for Adrien (it was really satisfying to finally see him get fed up with Lila. He got some good hits in fight, too.)

I noticed that Lila's horn didn't grow when she said that she loves Adrien...nor it did when she said she would forget if Onichan would kill Ladybug. What is wrong with that girl?

Kagami made for even cooler than the last time, even if she was a bit of repeat and her tracker powers were just begging for trouble. At least this time Hawk Moth made sure her motivation didn't include skewering his son.Speaking of parenting, where was Kagami's mom trough whole episode?

I'm not sure why, but before I got the reference, I thoght that Bakerix sounds like a female name for some reason.

Is it me, or does this show reeeally likes BirthdayEpisodes?

I love Gabriel's reaction to Lila.

He may "like" her in the sense that she's turning out to be his most dependable minion, but he flips his shit once he spots her actually spending any time with his son.

Of course, if anyone knows how full of crap she is, he does. Still, the fact that he sent someone to beat her up just because the shit he's been encouraging is actually impacting his personal life is hysterical (as is the way he forgets all that once he remembers how much of an asshole she is). He's such a wonderful hypocrite. It's also really amusing that Lila somehow turned all that into an opportunity for her to be evil too.

I do wish Kagami was actually in that episode more, though. She doesn't even have any lines before getting akumatized.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 7th 2019 at 9:17:49 AM

Question: does Netflix have the episodes listed out of order?

EDIT: nvm

Edited by PhysicalStamina on May 16th 2019 at 3:34:45 PM

So, Miraculer.

Well. Wasn't expecting Chloe of all characters to be the first to finally confirm that Hawk Moth's manipulation can be thrown off with enough determination. That's one stubborn anti-heroine.