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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#76: Mar 11th 2017 at 12:13:17 PM

It's not really a spoiler if it's part of the promotional material though...

thebandragoness Since: Feb, 2016
#77: Mar 11th 2017 at 12:15:22 PM

[up]Yeah, I see that now. I guess it could be intentionally misleading us, though. But that's still something I wouldn't have wanted spoiled so if it does happen then I'm mad at them for including it in the commercial...

edited 11th Mar '17 12:15:44 PM by thebandragoness

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#78: Mar 11th 2017 at 1:00:55 PM

Can someone link to that commercial?

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#80: Mar 11th 2017 at 3:32:57 PM

Not sure how I feel about that. The Aladdin series managed to go sixty-plus episodes without ever bringing back Jafar in any form.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#81: Mar 11th 2017 at 3:35:20 PM

It's part of a dream sequence or an imagine spot I bet

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#82: Mar 11th 2017 at 3:53:33 PM

At long last, we finally here someone comment on Rapunzel's habit of not wearing shoes.

With all the memes about women choosing a bear over a man, Hollywood might wanna get on an 'East of the Sun and West of the Moon' adaptation
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#83: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:09:19 PM

Mother Godel is not an Ursula or Jafar. She's barely threatening enough as to credibly fill as the villain of a single movie, bringing her back as a recurring enemy wouldn't be too wise, I think.

Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#84: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:52:06 PM

@Ultimatum: The sound is echo-y and weird enough that I'd believe that'd be the case.

I'd still rather they kept this a surprise.

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#85: Mar 11th 2017 at 8:38:13 PM

The Aladdin series managed to go sixty-plus episodes without ever bringing back Jafar in any form.

Yeah. The Hercules series did it for them. ;)

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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#86: Mar 11th 2017 at 9:03:09 PM

My guess is a dream sequence that's comparing Mother Gothel to King Fredrick because while Fredrick is far more sincere and giving her a lot more reign, he's still using the same justifications that Gothel used to keep Rapunzel locked away.

I also get the impression that Fredrick's opinion of Eugene is very similar to Cassandra's, but he feels the need to restrain himself because as much as he's not fond of his daughter's relationship with a common thief, said thief is the only reason he got to see his daughter again at all.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#87: Mar 11th 2017 at 9:04:35 PM

[up]x2 Didn't they at least give a good justification for bringing Jafar back? IIRC he died, Hades is the Lord of the Dead so he did Lord of the Dead things, and BOOM. Jafar came back. And the he died again or whatever.

How would they justify Gothel coming back? She basically disintegrated and Tangled isn't a High Fantasy where resurrection is a likely thing to exist.

edited 11th Mar '17 9:06:49 PM by Karxrida

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#88: Mar 11th 2017 at 10:10:14 PM

[up]The magical hair bringing Flynn back to life and also growing back entirely via magical means in the TV Series beg to differ.

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#90: Mar 11th 2017 at 10:49:49 PM

Right, but they did say resurection wasn't likely to happen when it has before. In general this setting clearly has a level of magic to it with a drop of sunlight creating a healing flower, which kept a witch alive for hundreds of years, which created healing hair, which resurected a man, which grew back in all of five seconds,

I feel like Gothel coming back at all isn't as implausible as they made it to be. I merely question it since Gothel's level of threat effectively ends with her demise since her whole thing was being an abusive parent.

She and Frollo have a lot in common. Frollo's power over Quasimodo ends by the climax of the film because Quasi is no longer willing to let Frollo's abuse control him. He couldn't be a capable threat if he survived because a big part of what made him a villain cannot exist anymore.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#91: Mar 11th 2017 at 11:27:47 PM

Let me rephrase that.

Resurrecting somebody when the body no longer exists seems to be outside the setting's magic level.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
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#92: Mar 12th 2017 at 12:06:45 AM

I have a feeling some kind of time travel is going to be involved. Mother Gothel being back pretty much requires that or True Resurrection. The incantation suggests that maybe it's a form of magic that can happen. "Make the clock reverse".

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InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#93: Mar 12th 2017 at 12:51:01 AM

Clips from the movie show that this all starts from a stone found where the flower was found in the first place. There are a bunch of black spikes everywhere and Rapunzel touching it causes the hair to grow back. Apparently it all popped up "a year ago" meaning, if the series is set a year after Tangled, that catalyst could be Gothel's death. Maybe it simply reset everything causing Gothel to come back and Rapunzel's hair to grow back?

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#94: Mar 12th 2017 at 7:36:44 AM

I'd rather have an original villain as the ongoing Big Bad, if there's one.

Or if they want a recognizable face, assuming Tangled and Frozen actually share a continuity, heck, have the Duke of Weaselton show up here and there as an antagonist. He's well known to meddle into the affairs of other countries, and there you have your obligatory Alan Tudyk role. Or you could use one of Hans' brothers, or even Hans himself since this should be taking place before Frozen. You could even plant subtle seeds for Frozen 2 while you're at it, now that should promote your series big time.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#95: Mar 12th 2017 at 8:04:55 AM

[up]x2

That's pretty much impossible. This show is set between the movie and the wedding special. The wedding special takes place six months after the movie so...

edited 12th Mar '17 8:05:13 AM by Chariot

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#96: Mar 12th 2017 at 8:05:32 AM

I really hope Mother Gothel is just a part of a dream sequence. It doesn't make much sense bringing her back for the series, honestly.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#97: Mar 12th 2017 at 11:01:23 AM

I could see the handwave "She was vaporized when the hair was cut, so when the hair came back she came back" but I agree that narratively she has no place opposite an independent Rapunzel with a functioning support system.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#98: Mar 12th 2017 at 12:42:14 PM

Not to mention, unless she keeps combing the hair regularly she's only going to disappear again anyway.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#99: Mar 12th 2017 at 3:07:20 PM

Gothel could be the villain of the pilot movie like Jafar was for Return of Jafar, but only for the movie.

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#100: Mar 12th 2017 at 3:09:53 PM

Pilot movie aired two days ago so no.


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