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VeryMelon SUPER SOMETHING ELSE
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May 16th 2015 at 6:42:25 AM

Next Planet of the Apes film named. I like it. I know this was one of the names thrown about but it seems to be confirmed now.

http://collider.com/new-planet-of-the-apes-movie-title-revealed/

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
May 16th 2015 at 12:39:51 PM

Color me excited. It'll be interesting seeing how they pull this one off.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
May 16th 2015 at 2:38:41 PM

I wonder what the plot is. Ape vs Ape, Ape vs Human?

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
GethKnight from St.Charles, Missouri Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
May 16th 2015 at 2:44:10 PM

Most likely Ape vs Human. Though, if there's some bullshit about Koba being alive, I'd imagine a little Ape vs Ape thrown in for added drama.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
May 16th 2015 at 3:14:14 PM

Nice to see that Caesar isn't one of those "We are always victims and all of our troubles are Man's fault" guys. He knows they messed up with what happened last movie.

edited 16th May '15 3:15:50 PM by theLibrarian

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
May 16th 2015 at 4:28:07 PM

Of course. It's not like he could ignore the fact that KOBA is the one who shot him. And Koba's the one who took over and got so many apes killed in the first place.

Mr.Didact Keep Hope Alive from Winterfell Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
Keep Hope Alive
May 16th 2015 at 6:27:57 PM

How would the apes fight the military though? They would be vastly outnumbered and outgunned

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GethKnight from St.Charles, Missouri Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
May 16th 2015 at 7:50:52 PM

They know the terrain, are stronger, have the element of surprise, don't have to worry about reloading or any other supply concerns.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
May 16th 2015 at 8:04:51 PM

Artillery shellings from the ocean, take over the coasts. Set up mortars and fire bombs and blow the shit out of everything like the Allies did to the Nazis in places like Dresden. Long as you get the human populace evacced to better places first, you'd win handily. Question is how much of a supply they'd actually have after ten years of Hell.

GethKnight from St.Charles, Missouri Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
May 16th 2015 at 8:15:59 PM

We don't even know how many ships or troops the surviving humans have.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
May 16th 2015 at 8:20:25 PM

Yes, that is what it boils down to. If humanity doesn't have enough of a military left, it'll be like Custer at Little Big Horn.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
May 16th 2015 at 9:50:51 PM

Personally I think the apes have two marks in their favor: Their superior mobility, and their numbers. In Dawn they were able to get over the armory walls by climbing around them when the humans were butchering them due to better positions and heavier firepower, but they also outnumbered the humans by a great deal. In Rise, they never would have made it off the bridge if it weren't for the fact that they could cling to the underside.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
May 17th 2015 at 2:05:40 AM

The situation may well have changed by the time of the new movie. The apes may have developed technology on their own, and appropriated human weapons.

But yeah, I sincerely hope Koba is not still alive as some people have theorised. He served his purpose.

edited 17th May '15 2:06:20 AM by DrDougsh

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
May 17th 2015 at 4:51:13 AM

The theory's not without some backing. There's an audio stinger at the end of the credits of Dawn that sounds horribly like an injured ape shuffling. Just what you would hear if Koba had untangled himself from that wreckage and walked off to heal and earn a few more scars. Not saying it will happen that way, but it is suggested from that clip.

ETA: Also, we don't know how much of a time skip we'll get. It's entirely possible this movie will pick up directly where the last one left off, with the Apes just now leaving the city, packing their things, and running for the hills with their new supplies.

edited 17th May '15 4:52:20 AM by Journeyman

May 17th 2015 at 5:06:06 AM

Not saying it can't plausibly happen. I just don't want it to happen. What would Koba do if he continued to be the villain for the next movie? Challenge Caesar's authority again? I'm not interested in seeing a retread of Dawn. They already set the war between the apes and humans up as inevitable by the end of that movie, so Koba is just plain unnecessary at this point.

edited 17th May '15 5:07:00 AM by DrDougsh

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
May 17th 2015 at 8:03:43 AM

I would think it's only inevitable as a sort of "Cycle of Revenge" thing. In Dawn Caesar seemed perfectly willing to let bygones be bygones when one of the humans offered to help him with his sick mate.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
May 18th 2015 at 7:56:59 PM

[up][up] Caesar's family proved tougher than Koba thought. No, if he's in the next movie I don't think they'll settle for having him challenge Caesar's leadership. He'll probably be captured by humans, seem to do the impossible by allying with them, and try to use his inside knowledge to help kill off Caesar's tribe. Granted, it would most likely be a gambit where he'd turn on the humans and steal their shit again. Maybe with a tribe of his own. Then it'd be Ape vs. Ape.

TheAirman from Congratulations! Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
May 18th 2015 at 8:39:37 PM

Human vs Ape is Ape vs Ape.

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Demetrios Makes Everything 20% Cooler from Wheeling, Illinois Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Makes Everything 20% Cooler
May 18th 2015 at 10:44:17 PM Wishing I was where the sunlight is: Florida or South Africa
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
May 19th 2015 at 5:13:03 AM

Only in the bones. We're more like an ape skeleton wrapped in pork. Literally. Only the Powers That Be know how the Hell THAT one evolved.

Demetrios Makes Everything 20% Cooler from Wheeling, Illinois Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Makes Everything 20% Cooler
May 19th 2015 at 8:01:55 AM Wishing I was where the sunlight is: Florida or South Africa
TheAirman from Congratulations! Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
May 19th 2015 at 8:52:37 AM

Humans, chimps, and bonobos are all more closely related to one another than any are to the gorillas, and all of them are more closely related still than any is to the orangutans.

It would be more accurate to say that gibbons are a dwarf ape's skeleton wrapped in monkey.

edited 19th May '15 8:57:22 AM by TheAirman

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Parable So I Am Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
So I Am
May 19th 2015 at 12:17:48 PM

Just think, a few centuries later when the Apes rule the world and experiment on animal test subjects, the whole thing will start over again with Planet of the Monkeys.

edited 19th May '15 12:17:54 PM by Parable

Nevertheless, you must persist.
GethKnight from St.Charles, Missouri Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
May 19th 2015 at 1:06:39 PM

They could use humans for their animal testing. They could even have a horror movie called "Planet of the Humans"

Demetrios Makes Everything 20% Cooler from Wheeling, Illinois Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
Makes Everything 20% Cooler
May 19th 2015 at 3:53:18 PM

They did that in the first movie.

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