Becuase the amount of Live Action remake threads are getting cluttery, I made this thread so people could discuss all of them in one neat place. For ease of catching up, I'll post all the Live action Disney movies we have and the movies that will be coming soon.
In Production:
- Beauty and the Beast
thread
- Winnie the Pooh thread
- Dumbo thread
- Mulan thread
- Pinocchio thread
- Night on Bald Mountain from "Fantasia"
- Maleficent sequel
- Prince Charming thread
- Aladdin prequel: Genies
- Sword in the Stone thread
Released:
edited 15th Jul '17 2:12:16 PM by VeryMelon
Isabella gives me a smile that makes my stomach flip a little. “There’s no way I’d leave you hanging.”
“It’s not fair that you’re so nice.” I take another piece of pizza. “People aren’t supposed to be smart and popular and nice. What’s your weakness, Isabella Richards?”
The first movie had a plot revolving around finding a virgin, and no one bats an eye. :D I would think they'd make this very risque.
Disasturbator
I'm surprised Disney isn't planning on remaking princess and the Frog as a live action film
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I'm Sad Frogerson.
The Princess And The Frog isn't even 10 years old yet, so I'm not surprised Disney hasn't decided to remake yet. They're probably going to focus on older properties that have more name recognition. IIRC, The Princess and the Frog underperformed at the box office when it was first released, so that's another incentive to not make that a top priority for a remake.
I think the best bet for another live-action remake would probably be something like Pinocchio or Bambi.
Disasturbator
They won't remake Bambi,I feel like it's in the same place as Snow White
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Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon
They announced they were developing a Snow White remake not long ago. Nothing is sacred anymore.
"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Disasturbator
someone beat them to it with two different snow white movies!
I can't imagine they were happy at the results
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If you like a total grosses, The Princess and the Frog only earned a level just above frekkin Black Calderon among Disney princess films! So yeah it's clear that Disney doesn't give a care about it other than it filling yet another slot in a foreign ethnic Disney Princess doll.
Tiana's American.
The Unknown
Is Black Cauldron even a princess film?
Like it has a princess, but I don't think her status (or role) is ever incredibly relevant.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Not in the common sense, but it has a princess.
Let's put it this way, Black Cauldron is a princess film in the sense that, had the movie been a roaring success, Elowny dolls, shirts, and other merch would be filling several cubic landfills somewhere out there right now.
Princess movies vs. Regular Disney movies are only separated by two qualities; Did they have a "Princess"? and Was the movie financially successful?
So, technically, any movie via Disney with a female lead is a Schrodinger's Disney Princess with those sweet sweet box office reciepts being the deciding factor.
Unless Disney is so certain that they add the character into canon pre-release like they did Elsa and Anna.
Edited by InkDagger on Sep 9th 2018 at 10:05:18 AM
Actually...no. The Disney Princess line-up works this way:
1. The property has to be based on a fairy tale or a myth. 2. The character has to be the protagonist (Jasmine is kind of the exception, but she slips in because she is kind of the co-protagonist and Aladdin is as fairy tale as it gets, plus, she provides more diversity). 3. The character has to be human.
The Black Cauldron is based on a book series and the protagonist is Taran, so it won't be part of the line-up, no matter how successful it is, just like Jane isn't part of the line-up for pretty much the same reasons, despite Tarzan having been a success for Disney.
It also has to be a musical.
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it doesn't have to be a musical, Brave isn't one and Merida is a princess
Not that the hard core Disney Princess fans are happy about the fact that they included Merida. I don't think that they will leave it to Pixar to create a Disney Princess movie anytime soon.
For what it's worth, a Disney Princess movie needn't even have a princess per se. It's mostly about the demographic it appeals to.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Sure, but if it were only about appeal, characters like Jane of Esmeralda were part of the line-up, and they aren't, because they are not based on a fairy tale.
No, its because those movies were not as successful/popular as Disney would have liked. Hunchback, Hercules, and Tarzan are all odd ones out when it comes to success with the likes of Atlantis being the more extreme variation.
Tarzan made a shit ton of money, but wasn't as lucrtive merchendice wise and you don't tend to see Tarzan stuff much anymore. This is also in part due to a copyright problem with the Burroughs estate after the film came out.
Hunchback, while it was more successful and critically aclaimed than Pocohontas, the film's lack of popularity and the 'Soccer Mom' criticism of Esmerelda's more sexualized nature (nevermind what the film actually said on that) shut that down.
Hercules was not well recieved financially or critically which probably shut down the possibility of Meg being a member of the Princess line-up. I'd also like to point out that Meg also is drastically different than any other woman in the Princess Franchise for a variety of reasons.
The Disney Princess Franchise and who is included vs. who isn't is purely a PR and Economic matter rather than anything to do with the characters themselves.
Eh...the Disney Princess Franchise isn't really THAT old. It wasn't around in the 1990s. Disney only got the idea in the early 2000s, after they realised that there was already a very active fanbase for their leading ladies. So any decision about which is part of the franchise and what isn't would have made in that period.
There are other examples, too. Lilo and Stitch was for example a huge success, but Lilo is not part of the franchise, never was. Because she doesn't fit.
Edited by Swanpride on Sep 16th 2018 at 4:11:57 AM
Well, yes, but the 'royalty' and 'romantic subplot' aren't in that film either.
Anything from 2000-2009 is wierd in the Disney canon.
The Hocus Pocus sequel novel is out. According to the internet it has a lesbian romance as a major focus, but I can't find any evidence of that on the trope page. https://www.google.com/search?q=hocus+pocus+sequel
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