New DuckTales Animated Series

[вверх]Maybe. I just want to correct Redmess that Inspector Tezuka is a woman, not a man. And one Astro BOYD character is present in prison. This is Dr. Akita.

Oops, sorry. I have kind of forgotten who those characters were, to be honest.

Inspector Tezuka is basically Zenigata as a female crow-person.

Edited by Snicka on May 22nd 2023 at 5:19:33 PM

The fact that the animators even gave Tezuka that funny Zenigata run in one scene was fantastic. That whole episode was a love letter to Japanese media, and I love it for that.

I also really liked Boyd's first name being 2BO, given how Boyd was already a walking Astro Boy reference.

I don't really know that show, so that reference was lost on me, though I did get the Astro Boy reference on a name level, at least.

OK, I recently bought the art book and I have to ask if there's bad blood between Tony Anselmo and the rest of the staff that we aren't aware of? Because he's only mentioned a grand total of once, and is the only major cast member not to have any interview input about the show/their character. Possibly related is that Don Cheadle is in the book, and both the book itself and its back cover description lists him as "Don Cheadle (Donald Duck)" without further context. So I'm wondering if Don Cheadle voicing "normal-sounding Donald" instead of him, and then being advertised in things like this artbook as though he is his equal in voicing Donald, turned Tony off. I knew he had some issues with the show already, but things might have escalated.

Edited by Isaac_Heller on May 22nd 2023 at 6:54:24 AM

Personally, I'm not all that interested in speculating whether something in the artbook is indicative of "bad blood," especially since that sort of gossip has a tendency to blow up online and potentially cause misinformation to spread.

If Anselmo does have negative feelings towards the production of the series, better that people hear it from his mouth instead of speculating based on something in an artbook that may or may not even be related.

If there was bad blood, that would certainly help explain why Donald's role seems to have been scaled back compared to how the pre-release marketing portrayed his presence on the show. Or alternatively, that scaling back was what caused bad blood with the team.

I agree it is hard to say without any direct word, but I also agree that the lack of attention looks odd.

assuming there's 'bad blood' is like jumping to the worst possible conclusion when in the reality its unlikely

It is peculiar, at the very least, and it would at least warrant some questions to the staff about it.

I think it would be rude to ask questions like that

You know, even though I love this animated series, but I hate the frivolous attitude of the Duck family to their enemies. They are constantly trying to kill them, and sometimes antagonists are very close to it. But the heroes don't take them seriously. In Glomtales, Louis calmly went down to the villains instead of fleeing from them through the window. Lena let go of her evil aunt a couple of times, although the first time she could call adults, and the second time she could twist her with her magic. In the last episode, the heroes generally smile at the villains. It's clear that it's not the time for a new fight (they just won the FOWL), but, damn, it's like they're saying goodbye to friends.

No matter how strong the heroes are, they have to respect him enemy. Contempt does not lead to anything good. I wonder if one of the main characters died at the hands of villains, the rest would learn to take them seriously?

There are exceptions. Lunaris, for example. And Magica (only the first season). But that's not enough.

> But the heroes don't take them seriously

its a comedy but also an animated show aimed at children,they don't the villains seriously because most of them are fairly laughable

Honestly, that's pretty much par for the course for any children's show, and a fair bit of media for adults as well. You just can't have the heroes go and kill off villains or whatever and keep them heroic for long.

It's still a children's show. It's not some hard-boiled Duck-noir affair.

Season 1 Magica and Lunaris are taken more seriously than the others because they're the villains of the season-ending two-parters where the stakes are, by nature, higher.

But yes, for the rest, this is a show primarily for children. The villains are bound to fail in each episode, no deaths would happen despite the constant threats, etc.

Gravity Falls was also a comedy. But even there it was much more serious. And there was a murder in the remake of Ducktales. Ponce de Leon.

Edited by bn2000 on May 29th 2023 at 1:30:12 AM

Not every Disney show has to be like Gravity Falls, especially since both its daughter shows were running concurrently with DT17.

Edited by badtothebaritone on May 28th 2023 at 1:48:19 PM

The writers of Ducktales 2017 were writing Ducktales 2017, not Gravity Falls.

Honestly, the question of "Show A did it, why didn't Show B?!" always baffled me on how often it's brought up, because the answer is really simple: "Because the writers were writing Show B, not Show A."

Edited by dragonfire5000 on May 29th 2023 at 1:01:23 AM

One question: why do you call it "Duck Stories" instead of "DuckTales"? The title is supposed to be a pun on "duck tails".

Actually, a whole lot of animated series were inspired by Gravity Falls and are very similar to it. Amphibia, The Owl House and so on. A significant part of the staff worked on both shows. There is nothing surprising or terrible here. Creators often take recent successful projects as a basis. In this sense, no work of cinematography is completely independent.

This just sounds like "I wanted a darker and edgier show than it actually was".

Granted, this bunch of writers does seem to have a knack for darker horror stories whenever Lena and Magica share an episode.

Hey. You misunderstood me. I didn't demand a dark cartoon series at all. And even more so, I don't want the heroes to kill all the villains in a row. A simple prison is enough. Moreover, there is a prison in the original 1987. Beagles make escapes from it. However, there is actually a prison in the remake, too. In the podcast, Glomgold was jailed. I hope this event follows after the final, and not before it.

Okay, I doubt Anselmo not being involved in the art book is supposed to be a sign of bad blood. Heck, he's still fine including the series on his Instagram bio here and we already discussed how the most there was were just some early voice problems that were rectified later on by the time season 2 started up so the relationship certainly hasn't soured worse and did get better.

Tony did attend the show's premiere party back in 2017 seen here, which he wouldn't have done if there truly was bad blood between him and the crew.

And regarding Don Cheadle, Tony expressed on Instagram that he actually liked the Cheadle thing.

And Tony wasn't the only major/recurring voice actor that wasn't interviewed for the art book. Keith Ferguson (Glomgold), Kimiko Glenn (Lena), Eric Bauza (Beagle Boys), Kari Wahlgren (Roxanne Featherly), Libe Barer (Violet), Margo Martindale (Ma Beagle), David Kaye (Duckworth), April Winchell (Black Heron), and Catherine Tate (Magica de Spell) weren't included either despite also being recurring players too, yet that doesn't mean they had bad blood with the show.

Frank Angones also said Disney has a policy for not giving publicity to the Sensational Six voice actors for specific projects when explaining why Tony wasn't in that theme song sing a long with the rest of the main cast back in December 2016. So it could easily be that the Disney higher ups didn't allow for Anselmo to be interviewed for the book (likely also being why he's the only main cast member to not attend any of the show's panels).

Heck in general, Disney never does give too much publicity on the Sensational Six voices with Roadster Racers only mentioning the guest stars in its press releases and Mickey Mouse Funhouse only mentioning Harvey Gullen as Funny among the main cast with no attention or mention given to Bret Iwan, Russi Taylor/Kaitlyn Robrock, Bill Farmer, Tony Anselmo/Daniel Ross, or Tress MacNeille/Debra Wilson. The fact Robrock being cast as Minnie's new voice was only found out by a new episode of Roadster Racers rather than a big press release as well as Ross replacing Anselmo as Donald in Roadster Racers and Wilson replacing MacNeille as Daisy in Mickey Mouse Funhouse season 2 and Mickey Saves Christmas being only revealed via episode credits or from themselves rather than a big press release.

So Anselmo not being publicly promoted for specific projects isn't just a Ducktales thing.

Good points! It's a shame Disney won't let those voice actors get any interviews. I guess that's the price of Disney-superstardom.

So, is it possible Donald and Della never encountered Glomgold before the Spear of Selene happened? On one hand, Life and Crimes with Scrooge Mc Duck does show he and Scrooge have already met back in the 1980s (when Donald and Della were born). On the other hand, the first episode clearly implies Donald didn't know Glomgold at the time (being why he didn't see anything wrong in working for him) so I do wonder that.