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Well JL is consistent his most brutal beatings are with Darkseid and doesn’t hold back against him.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 7th 2021 at 5:17:33 AM
Oh man ya gotta love good villain banter.
"Had I known one death would pain you, I would have killed more. And Kill more I shall, carry that agony with you to oblivion Superman."
"I am many things Kal-El, but here I am God."
Edited by slimcoder on Jun 7th 2021 at 5:17:26 AM
I legit thought I was in the wrong thread for a moment lol
Back on the actual topic of the thread, I'm disappointed that the anime decided to omit a certain detail after the conclusion of the final Joint Training fight. In Chapter 216, after Mina starts teasing Ochako for so quickly "hugging" Midoriya and she explains why she did it while turning beat red, you can see that Deku has also turned beat red. It's a little detail, but it's a nice one considering that Deku doesn't blush that much talking to girls anymore, but turns beat red from Mina teasing Ochako for hugging him.
Just some more fuel for the Green Tea shippers and possible hints that Ochako's crush isn't one-sided, which is important to note now more than ever since the current arc has set up Ochako to be the one who saves Deku from himself. She's the one who asked after all "Who helps the heroes when they need saving?" and was shown close to tears at Deku's goodbye note. I think it was raziel365 who mentioned this prior, but an Anguished Declaration of Love might be in the future if Ochako tries to break through Deku's thick skull.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 8th 2021 at 2:53:36 PM
That does seem likely.
Also Bakugo is probably gonna apologize as part of the 'giving Deku his groove back' arc as well (I'm sure that's on the horizon)
These kinds of small changes happen all the time, including with more important characters like Bakugou. I’ve just accepted it.
It was just a minor detail in the background of a panel focusing on Shinsho anyways. They might have legitimately failed to notice. Not that it matters because the anime tends to amp up the Izuocha Ship Tease in general, if anything.
Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Jun 8th 2021 at 2:58:58 AM
A minor change they made I didn't like was how they made Shinso's thoughts on how great the Hero Course is all about Class A. It was more spread between both classes manga-wise. Not super important, but it does seem like it defeats the purpose of the whole thing a bit.
So, any hopes/fears for what Izuku's final Quirk is going to be?
Edited by LSBK on Jun 9th 2021 at 8:32:32 AM
Hope that it's gonna be something non-combat related. Make it something unassuming that is still Boring, but Practical. We saw after all that 2nd wore a gauntlet, what if instead of it being related to his Quirk, the Gauntlet was just his overall weapon, and his Quirk was something else like a minor Healing Factor or faster reaction time.
Fear that it's gonna be a combat Quirk that's more accurately a cheat code to let him pull bullshit again without hurting himself and that he just masters the first time uses it.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 9th 2021 at 9:41:11 AM
Deku would faint with relief if he got a healing factor
Since when is a Healing Factor Boring, but Practical? Given all the complaints about "Too OP" or whatever that seems like a really bad idea to me right now. (Actually, I've always hated the idea of him getting a direct healing Quirk, but that's less relevant now.) Actually, given all the complaints, I don't see how faster reaction time would go over well either.
And those gauntlets are way too... stylized? To just be a thing, that isn't going to actually be relevant.
Edited by LSBK on Jun 9th 2021 at 8:46:26 AM
I did specify minor right? As in, it could quickly heal cuts and bruises, but stuff like broken bones and torn muscles would take a lot of energy to heal. Like a self-applying version of Recovery Girl's Quirk. I'd say the ability to instantly heal a paper cut is Boring, but Practical. Sure OFA is gonna supercharge it, but it wouldn't be on the level of Wolverine or Deadpool.
It helps that the 2nd is more than likely a 1st Gen Quirk. While Quirks are strong now due to Quirk Singularity Doomsday Theory, the advent of Quirks had them more simple and less powerful.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 9th 2021 at 9:55:52 AM
@ Rebel Falcon
Indeed, I hope the blush is added in the blu-ray, not just for the Green Tea fuel but because Ochako is probably the only one who can actually get Izuku out of his approach to dealing with AFO.
It must be noted that Izuku still has an inferiority complex that has not been addressed so far, unlike Bakugou and Shouto who had to face their own hang-ups to become better heroes.
In this scenario, Ochako is pivotal for Izuku to finally start working himself out of that because she's the only one who has been by his side since the beginning, something that not even his mother did when she learned he was quirkless.
Funnily enough, part of how I can see that happening would be by her calling him by his name. Not Deku, his name, that would also go to show that she cares for him as Izuku Midoriya, the shy hero fanboy, not just Deku the hero.
Why wouldn't it be on the level of Wolverine or Deadpool? I don't feel like that logically follow for how this has been shown to work.
And he's not "more than likely" he has to be. He and the Third were contemporaries with Yoichi, and adults. Not that it matters much; saying Quirks are getting stronger and more complicated is not the same thing as saying there were no strong Quirks in the beginning. Given all the chaos, that wouldn't even make sense.
Edited by LSBK on Jun 9th 2021 at 9:00:41 AM
Deadpool has healed from being melted into a puddle and is regularly decapitated instead of given a Dope Slap. Wolverine has been reduced to a skeleton and regrew his muscles and skin easily.
These two are nigh-unkillable. What I was thinking was more akin to Spider-man's healing factor. Better than a normal human's, but doesn't negate heavier damage.
And yes, I know they were Yoichi's contemporaries. I couldn't recall though if that was said to be the first gen of Quirks, or just one of the earliest generations.
And I don't know, something about 2nd having a strong Quirk before OFA seems off to me. Considering AFO was building his empire and 2nd happened to be leading a Resistance Group, I think if 2nd had a strong enough Quirk, AFO would have tried killing him sooner or tried stealing it, especially with AFO being an admitted kleptomaniac. It's possible he had a strong quirk, just seems unlikely imo.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 9th 2021 at 10:22:21 AM
If that's all we're doing, I couldn't even see that serving a purpose at this point.
Outside the context of OFA quirks, the ability to rapidly heal is useful, but not flashy. So it could be argued that it does qualify for Boring, but Practical depending on what the other powers are in the setting...or rather if there are other powers. It might not be as flashy as a Flying Brick or Magic explosions, but it still better than nothing at all.
In the context of OFA I'd have to agree that it would be a bad idea for Deku to have such a power, as it might encourage recklessness further than usual and also because I think part of the theme is learning to not shoulder the burden himself and Midoriya has enough issues forgetting that without nigh invulnerability encouraging it.
I'd also argue that even on a lesser level a healing factor would still foster recklessness and "by working alone I can stop harm to others" mentality.
Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jun 10th 2021 at 7:24:59 AM
I feel like it's less he's forgotten and more he's never learned it in the first place.
I get why that's frustrating; it's been made clear to us that that's one of the main messages of the series for years at this point, but thinking about it, I don't feel like that's ever been communicated to him. It seems to me that's what this part of his journey is about - finally having him learn that lesson.
Which you could still criticize as his development being way too slow, I think that's an entirely fair criticism. But I do think it's distinct from him having Aesop Amnesia.
Edited by LSBK on Jun 9th 2021 at 9:22:35 AM
I know I've criticized it enough times to be a Broken Record. It's why I say has a thick skull, since no matter how much the narrative tries to beat into his head that aesop, it's as if he is subconsciously refusing to learn it.
Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 9th 2021 at 10:23:18 AM
I think the second quirk is gonna be a straightforward long distance attack. A blaster or something.
I mean Izuku straight up saw, experienced, and got told All Mights' methods of doing it alone and how it destroyed him. He talked to Nighteye and how All Might alienated him. He learned of how Nana abandoned her son and how she regretted it. The idea that OFA users going at it alone is a terrible idea is something Izuku has been faced with time and again. the problem is simply that he never has actually learned the aesop despite it practically being crammed down his throat.
Also, healing is plenty cinematic, just read Undead Unluck.
Seeing as Izuku's got at least two ways to dampen/nullify the impact of OFA (Blackwhip Brace and Fa Jin's "totes comes with drawbacks" nonsense), a healing Quirk would probably be superfluous. While a blaster is largely superfluous too - since he could already throw out ranged attacks with sheer force of OFA - at least it's something that's distinct and unique.
So this is technically leaked information, but it's about the anime so it should be fine to talk about here I think.
Turns out next week's episode will cover the interview training and the Christmas party. It also looks like they may omit Re-Destro's introduction and jump straight to Bakugo and Shoto vs Cider House this Saturday.
They really are committed to keeping things separate by cours.
Huh next episode is episode 12 the end of the cour so I guess they are.
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