My Hero Academia

I was talking about character ability too, and focus has been given to that for Bakugo. So again, does him getting stronger not matter, just because he won't be the strongest in the end? Really, you could apply the same thing to all of them.

Bakugo is the secondary main character and rival, that's not really the same at all.

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Considering being the strongest is still his main goal, I'd say it very much is.

I mean, All Might in his prime is faster and stronger than anyone else in the setting short of AFO by a landslide.

Izuku has his Quirk but better. I don't see why people are up in arms about Izuku beating Tenya in raw speed? Nevermind how he can only do this in short bursts compared to Tenya's prolonged 10-minute sprint.

Well then I don't really agree. Bakugo is well rounded enough to never really overshadowed, and the entire last arc hammered home that he can still keep up with Deku at this point in time.

Its not really the same as Iida's main power being able to go fast, and Deku just being able to surpass that at his current level.

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Going back to Overhaul for a second, I stand by what I said. The guy has been portrayed as basically helpless now. Going "actually, he can still use his Quirk to fix her" just brings up the question "okay, if he can still use his Quirk why the hell is even sticking with her to begin with?"

I think the issue Yakuzu is saying is that if Izuku can outspeed Iida, it sort of makes Iida redundant.

Drawing back to the "Superman vs. Flash" analogy someone made earlier, a common criticism I've seen of stories involving Superman is that if he has all these powers and is so powerful, why does he need the rest of the League when he can do what they do, but better? It's why a lot of times writers need to either make limitations for Superman to explain why he needs the help of the League like the Flash, or they give the non-Superman characters their own unique abilities so as to make them fill a niche, basically making Superman a Jack of All Trades by comparison.

• It's not like DC hadn't done this before. One of the reasons Crisis on Infinite Earths even happened was the decision to "clean house", and part of that decision meant reinforcing the idea Superman was the "Last Kryptonian", since before then, there had been Supergirl, Krypto the Superdog, Earth-2 Superman, Superboy Prime, Powergirl, the Bottle City of Kandor, and even some residents of the Phantom Zone. As a result, part of the edict was to remove anything that would make Superman "redundant", hence the death of Supergirl, the sealing away of Earth-2 Superman and Superboy Prime, and the ever changing backstory of Powergirl. To make him less redundant, they removed the factors that made him redundant.

So if Izuku can outspeed Iida, Yakuzu is arguing why Iida is needed then if he doesn't offer anything that Deku can do himself. Obviously, the solution to this would be to give Iida a niche he can fill that Deku can't.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 7th 2021 at 3:53:34 PM

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I understand the complaint, I just don't agree with that line of thinking. I think things like that have the potential to be issues depending on how they're handled, but like many things, I feel like people jump to it way too quickly.

Especially with a story like this where a large point seems to be "even the best can't do everything alone".

Edited by LSBK on Jun 7th 2021 at 2:54:55 PM

By the way, the actual, official explanation for the old stories where Superman kept up with the Flash is “Those were for charity, Clark. *voooom!*”

Also, why complain now? Deku has been pulling speed feats since he unlocked full cowling.

In Two Heroes he kept up with All Might's running speed, in Heroes Rising he moved so fast he basically became lightning, and at Infinite 100 in the show was flash stepping.

This was always going to happen.

And it's not like Deku can consistently keep this speed right now. It required setting up three quirks to pull it off.

It requires build up.

Also that. I don't agree with it, but if the point is Iida is "redundant" then it seems like you should have felt that way long before this. Speed and agility has been a thing for all three of our Main Trio for quite a bit.

Edited by LSBK on Jun 7th 2021 at 2:59:03 PM

I wasn't really intending for this to be a serious discussion, it was just a small joke...

But just to put it out there, the main reason Iida developed Recipro Turbo was, as Mineta put it, he wanted to gain his individuality back. So that right there kind of says Hori is aware of the implications of having Deku have stronger versions of abilities the other cast members have.

So I don't really see how bringing that point up is wrong when the story itself has acknowledged it being very much a possibility.

As I just said, its been lingering issue for a while. And I only brought it up as a tongue in cheek joke.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Jun 7th 2021 at 4:05:37 AM

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There was a minor mistake this chapter, a speech bubble got left blank

Okay anyone who says Superman makes Flash look redundant is talking out for their ass and doesn’t know jackshit about the Flash.

I mean by that logic he alone makes Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Batman, Green Lantern, etc redundant cause he’s very strong and intelligent.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

For reference, it's the panel right after Izuku tells Chisaki they'll talk later. Apparently it's the Third going "I see" leading into his explanation about Izuku going wrong switching between all the Quirks in quick succession, and why he's narrowed things down.

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Yeah he does not make Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Flash, etc. redundant and anyone who thinks that is wrong.

He’ll one of the defining things about Supes is that he is vulnerable to magic, and that’s a niche he doesn’t cover at all. Not to mention Superman can’t be everywhere at once. He is only one man, and even he can be made fallible.

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Also this means Viz screwed up that scene because they gave Izuku all that dialogue instead.

I guess it gets hard to separate inner monologue from the voices inside his head.

Well, the text has no pronouns for references, because Japanese does that a lot. Still, from the panel layout it seems like it would pretty easy to tell it was actually the Third thinking, you don't even see Izuku in the first panel of the page with all the dialogue.

It should be noted DC only fleshed out everyone's niche much later on.

In the Silver Age? Most heroes had more or less similar movesets. Hence the "aquaman is useless" meme that came about from the Superfriends cartoon.

Its why Clark suffered The Worf Effect so much in Justice League, because the writers had to tone down how powerful he was to give everyone else a chance to shine.

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I remember one way they tried to limit Superman was that he had placed subconscious barriers up as a form of denial of his alien heritage, and that part of his character arc was a need to break these barriers, hence why he initially had to wear a suit in space when later he doesn't need to.

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Supes is always holding back was what Justice League said.

When he went all out against Darkseid and gave him a proper beating. Several times.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 7th 2021 at 5:08:08 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

Yea, in literally the last episode.

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He has given him a proper beating way before that. His cartoon even ended with him giving a huge one to the point Darkseid needed his slave-worshippers to carry him away.

Or the time when Darkseid worked with Brainiac which got Darkseid killed. That’s why Luther went to where he did to revive his robot-husbando, only to get the other guy who died there after Supes beat the shit outta him.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 7th 2021 at 5:14:58 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

I'm speaking mainly about Justice League, not the DCAU as a whole.

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