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WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#37701: Jan 22nd 2020 at 2:04:23 AM

What was even going to be their punishment for the Stain incident? I don't remember it being something too harsh.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37702: Jan 22nd 2020 at 4:00:24 AM

No, but having any kind of criminal record is quite the stinker in Japan, particularly for people who, you know, plan on becoming what is essesntially police officers.

Check out Persona 5 for more on that.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#37703: Jan 22nd 2020 at 4:01:20 AM

Or stay in this manga and check Twice's backstory.

RebelFalcon ULTRANumb from ... (Private)
#37704: Jan 22nd 2020 at 7:00:14 AM

If you had quirks of your own, and not being pro-heroes, would you interfere in a villain's crime spree when given the chance, at the risk of your own lives?
As someone with very little regard for my own life (And no, I'm not fucking suicidal, I'm just not gonna go out of my way to stop my death if it looks like its gonna happen, when my time comes it comes) compared to others, and if I knew I had the chance to make a significant difference to the outcome and prevent a nut from killing more people, I would gladly throw myself in to the line of fire. Even in real life, if a gunman tried to hold a place I was present at hostage for whatever reason, I'd immediately aim to tackle him and knock the gun away. Helps that I weigh close to 300 pounds and am over 6 ft tall, so just charging him should be enough to knock him off balance. If I get shot, so be it.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Jan 22nd 2020 at 10:03:21 AM

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#37705: Jan 22nd 2020 at 8:03:32 AM

[up] I like the way you think.

Personally, I am in the "deeply depressed" side of the spectrum in regards to "valuing my own life" and would probably walk right into such a scene if coming across it just to let my body fight it out against my will and see who comes out victorious or not.

But in order to properly answer on this vigilante question, I would have to think it through based on the nature of the quirk I would have had to my disposal.

(Had to do a "random quirk generator" test first just to see what quirk I would have for these occasions...)

(Turns out it would be "Vibration Emission & Psittaciforme Mimicry" prompting me to look up more lexicons just to understand what it was... and it turned out to be "Releasing vibrations while also have the power of transforming into a ''parrot'' at will.")

(Short story short: I would be the "Noisy Earthquake Parrot")

To be fair, it does sound pretty neat for a quirk. Considering how additional powers such as "voice mimicry", "flight", "size-shifting", "sound empowerment", and the possibility to be able of transforming into anyone of the 350 different species of parrots that does exist on the planet at any given opportunity, then the odds of me getting out alive from a villain encounter is pretty high, especially if I use the quirk to bust their vestibular systems and utterly destroying their sense of balance (possibly permanently) while also shaking the ground beneath their feet, and then fly away as I arrived, disguised as a parrot.

(And the funny part is that the quirk generator branded me as a "vigilante" on top of giving the quirk out. Which I never considered actually...)

So my quirk (which I baptized as "Squaking", which also would serve as my "alter ego" if it would get that far and for extra security, I would only show of the "Vibration emission" part of the ability and never the "Parrot Mimicry", as that would serve as my secret identity that I would carry to my grave in order to get away from nasty situations and still have a private life as a civilian) might actually be good enough to save people after all...

But back to the question.

Would I try to save innocent people from a villain by using my quirk?

Sure. (If I can get away with it.)

Even if it would only take one injury to kill me in my parrot form?

Sure. (As said, no high regards of my own life.)

Would I just let myself get killed while doing so?

Never. (I'll just fight as hard as I can and if it means that would involve a dead villain in the end, I would do it.)

But would I interfere just for the sake of stopping a villain for the sake of stopping a villain?

No. (Because villains might carry vendettas and track down the interfering civilian in order to extract vengeance later, also, it would not make me a better person than the villain, as I would have sought out the fight for the sake of the fight, not for anyone else.)

So in the end, it all depends on the circumstances.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#37706: Jan 22nd 2020 at 8:45:14 AM

I do feel MHA does appropriately and correctly stands by its stance on intervening in general from Stain and Gentle arc

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#37707: Jan 22nd 2020 at 9:33:18 AM

Would I intervene? Probably not. You don't really know how you react to such situations until it happens to you. But I did see an accident (it ended relative well) before my eyes while I could do something to stop it. I did not. I'd always thought I would just jump in and shout hey, but I did not. So going by that, I would probably react the same, still processing what the hell is going on by the time the deed is done, and it's too late to do anything.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#37708: Jan 22nd 2020 at 10:07:58 AM

It's pointless to ask such a question since you don't actually know how you'd react until you're actually in that kind of situation.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37709: Jan 22nd 2020 at 10:09:47 AM

If I were to be realistic, I'd probably stand there stunned shitting my own pants.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#37710: Jan 22nd 2020 at 10:09:54 AM

It’s like asking whether you’d take bullet for a person.

It can only be answered if you actually find yourself in such a situation.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37711: Jan 22nd 2020 at 10:56:55 AM

basically it would create 6 new OF As which can in turn create more OF As which in turn can... You see where I'm going with this.

I'm really not seeing a reason to think this though. Why would the assumption be that the power to transfer powers would go with them? And, especially at this point, when we're basically talking directly to AFO and nothing like that is implied I really wouldn't like another "well, you thought you knew how this power works but actually..." moment.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 22nd 2020 at 1:28:49 PM

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#37712: Jan 22nd 2020 at 11:14:59 AM

[up] Well, All Might described the transfer part as "giving away a box of chocolates" to someone.

It can't be taken by force and it must be consent from both parties to finish the transfer.

So what if Izuku, instead for giving away the whole box, opens it instead and give those he wants to share with, individual chocolates instead?

Wouldn't the transfer power work the same there as well?

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#37713: Jan 22nd 2020 at 12:48:49 PM

Not to mention that the #1 rule with dealing with any sort of crisis is "avoid increasing the number of casualties". So even if had nerves of steel and was able to make a purely reasoned decision on the matter, I probably wouldn't intervene unless I had a very good reason to believe that my interference wouldn't make the situation worse, and that's not always the sort of thing you can immediately judge, especially if you aren't specially trained to deal with that sort of scenario.

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#37714: Jan 22nd 2020 at 1:07:46 PM

We have no real idea of how OFA works with regards to transferring and the multiquirking. It could also be that Izuku simply gives six quirks to quirkless kids, giving them a chance to be a hero just like him.

Anyway, i feel that somehow Izuku's going to do something special with his quirk transfer, and it seems unlikely that OFA will stay in this version when the whole singularity issue was already brought up with regards to it. It was a pain for Izuku to learn, it's going to be hell for the next user. What better way to lighten it's burden than by splitting the quirk ?

Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#37715: Jan 22nd 2020 at 1:27:59 PM

Transferring OFA doesn't need consent from both parties, just the one doing the transfer. It can totally be forced on someone unwilling or unknowing, and given the circumstances, I wouldn't be surprised to find that's happened at least once.

Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37716: Jan 22nd 2020 at 1:34:25 PM

Really, it had to have happened at least once because otherwise, how would they know the specifics?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37717: Jan 22nd 2020 at 4:26:55 PM

Also, I wouldn't assume that OFA will even persist beyond Izuku to begin with. Which seems to part of the bases of the split theory here - that it has to. I don't like the idea anyway, but I'm also not taking that assumption as a given.

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#37718: Jan 22nd 2020 at 11:29:35 PM

I personally would find it weird if OFA just stopped existing or something because AFO is defeated. There's no real good reason for Izuku not to continue the line. And considering how OFA made his fantasy a reality, i think it's much more in line with the story if he gave the same chance to others.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37719: Jan 22nd 2020 at 11:33:11 PM

I disagree, I imagine there will be no real reason for him to continue it. All of the others actually had a pressing reason for why they needed to pass it on. But in like 20 or 30 years or whatever he is unlikely to have such a cause.

The others weren't just going on just because it was the thing to do and I don't see why he should do that either. Everything comes to an end eventually, why should OFA be any different?

Like I said, I find the whole idea unappealing in general, and none of these rationales strike me as particularly convincing. Even the multiple Quirks are themselves, something I didn't want, and I'm still not totally sure about. A line needs to be drawn somewhere.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 22nd 2020 at 1:40:08 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#37720: Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:47:29 AM

Huh okay officially unconfirmed but apparently there's a rumor that they are planning a movie every year with 10 films planned.

Its clearly bullshit but I feel like mentioning it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#37721: Jan 23rd 2020 at 12:58:43 AM

Naruto also did 10 movies in 10 years. Not sure what is bs about that.

As to "planned" that can be anything from finished outlines to "well we'd like to have a movie a year"

[up][up] Izuku still got a chance to fulfill his dream thanks to OFA, something otherwise unattainable. He could give the same chance to other quirkless kids.

Edited by devak on Jan 23rd 2020 at 10:00:12 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37722: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:03:07 AM

Honestly? I don't think I'd consider that super compelling. Although it was a factor because he saw himself in him, Izuku being Quirkless was not the primary factor there.

It works for the specifics of Toshinori and Izuku, but I really don't like the idea of OFA just becoming a massive "get out of Quirklessness" free card.

And, in the event he did pass it on to someone else (maybe spinoff material) we've already done the whole "Quirkless person given power" deal, so giving it to someone who already has a Quirk and see how they deal with a different set of issues would be more interesting.

This is all personal taste, but that just wouldn't really work for me on any level. We'll see what happens when the story ends in who knows how many years.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 23rd 2020 at 3:13:33 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#37723: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:05:00 AM

It’s just having a movie every year is not exactly commonly done nowadays.

Sure Naruto did that 1 movie per year thing a long time ago but now they haven’t had a movie since Bort which was....... oh wow 4 years ago in 2015.

Dragon Ball in the 90’s used to do 1 to 2 movies per year but now there’s at least a minimum of 2 to 3 years before the next film.

Even One Piece the biggest cashcow on the planet doesn’t do 1 film per year. There’s a 3-year gap between the last movie Gold in 2016 to the most recent movie Stampede which came out late last year.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:08:25 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#37724: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:22:40 AM

Also, wouldn't that imply they expect MHA to be airing for at least 10 more years?

Having the intention to make one movie every year is one thing, but to actually project those plans so far into the future seems a little ridiculous to me.

Naruto and One Piece might have done it, but I call into question if the plans were so exatc so early.

damage3245 Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#37725: Jan 23rd 2020 at 2:33:42 AM

The news is from Yonkou Production who is historically unreliable. I wouldn't pay much attention to rumors.


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