My Hero Academia

Yeah, I like plenty of villains because they are villains. I don't try to pretend they are anything but monsters.

Its weird that I miss the days when Harley was more of a villain than a hero.

I feel that the writers and fans who wanted Harley to be a hero kind of missed the point of her character.

Thank God for the Arkham series.

Counteracts the massive amounts of favoritism she gets in the Injustice games.

The League of Villains/Paranormal Liberation Front is so compelling to me because they're sympathetic villains. The ones who've had their backstories highlighted are all people who suffered "One Bad Day", and it isn't unreasonable to think society fucked them over. You can understand why they're like this and begin to like them as a result of that and Evil Is Cool.

But to deny that they are murderers and people that need to be stopped is taking the Draco in Leather Pants too far. Even if Shigaraki can be "saved", it doesn't change the fact that they are all now effectively beings of Darkness in a World of Light. They're too far gone, and the sins they've committed can't so easily be erased.

They're Villains you can like or empathize with, but it doesn't change the fact that they are Villains, and they need to be stopped before they do more harm to others and themselves.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Sep 16th 2019 at 6:21:25 AM

I'm still somewhat reluctant to believe the notion that Shigaraki can be saved. He's not much of an ideologue compared to his opponents, but his end goal is so completely at odds with Hero Society (that being its complete destruction) I can't believe him just getting redeemed with a Power of Friendship (and that IMO applies to most of the League, for that matter, now that they've reaffirmed themselves as Shigaraki's companions)

It's not a new thought for me that he's become an ideologically pure creature, but it is a new thought for me that so far he's the only major villain that doesn't seek to change Hero Society or otherwise manipulate it. Stain wanted Heroes to be held to an impossible standard, Overhaul wanted to manipulate the society with Quirk-erasing bullets, Redestro and MLA sought overhauling the social strata while maintaining Hero Society (and hey, 1A's big three would be the kind of people MLA would adore, probably, given how physical and flashy their Quirks are).

Even AFO seeks to rule over the Hero Society as the criminal mastermind. Shigaraki wants to straight-up upend the damn thing, consequences be damned.

Shigaraki getting "saved" will likely result in him using Decay on himself, TBH. No way he gets a happy ending.

@slimcoder: Honestly, I’ve soured on her Arkham series portrayal - it often seemed to treat her more like a joke than a threat in her own right. Seemed kind of sexist, really.

In any case, I’m fine with the character moving past the Joker, at the very least.

At least she’s treated as having some level of responsibility for her own crimes.

Injustice has her partly responsible for the scheme that got an entire city nuked, a pregnant woman murdered, & drove Superman to insanity.

And while everyone blames Joker no one acknowledges her responsibility in the plot that kickstarted the entire game’s story especially Batman who at a certain point allows her membership in the Justice League. And when Superman rightfully falls her out for ruining her life she responds “Hey not my fault, I expected you to save her not fail.”

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 16th 2019 at 8:27:25 AM

I’m thinking more about Harley in general than Injustice (which I haven’t played) in particular.

I watched a plot synopsis of the Injustice comic once and it all strikes me as pretty dumb

Whether Shigaraki can be saved kinda depends on how broadly or narrowly you define "saved" IMHO.

He's not insane, he can still reason and be reasoned with, he can think for himself. So he can still come to the conclusion that, well, he could've been a hero. That despite everything he's not doomed to be a destroyer, and that there IS a right path he could walk. So he can be saved from the dark ideals and self-image he holds.

But can he be redeemed in the sense that he becomes a good guy? Absolved of his crimes? No. He's done too much for that.

I know the AU animated movie where Batman, Superman, and Wonder woman were different characters (except Supes kinda) Batman drank his worlds version of Harleys blood and killed her after seeing she killed a bunch of kids and stuffed them into jars in a fridge.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 16th 2019 at 9:36:56 AM

Wtf

Good news: None of the Bat Family were this Batman!

The Au Wonder woman was also a New God.

Only Supes is 50% Clark.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 16th 2019 at 9:55:19 AM

^^It was vampire batman.

Oh that movie

Amusingly it was a Take That by Harley's original creator over how she's been handled nowadays.

One part of the critique is her now usually risque ensemble.

Going back to whether OFA be and usually is able to power up any existing Quirk(s) a holder has I will say that would make a certain amount of sense.

The story has gone out of it's way to say that people having more than one Quirk is a huge anomaly, and it would surely bring attention and questions. But if most OFA users were just using it to power up their own Quirk instead of using their Quirk and suddenly having Super-Strength, well, those questions go away.

They might still have had to deal with people going "Wait, why is your Quirk suddenly so much stronger", but that's still probably less attention grabbing then suddenly having a second, new Quirk altogether.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 16th 2019 at 10:15:56 AM

Didn't we already get that confirmed when Toshinori told Midoriya more about OFA during the Sports Festival? He said that had he given OFA to Todoroki, it likely would have supercharged his fire and ice, and that really, OFA is just the Crystallization of Power, not outright Super-Strength. Only reason it manifested as Super-Strength for Toshinori and Midoriya is because they were born Quirkless.

That's an interpretation of what he meant, but no, it wasn't clear cut.

Anyway, Ryukyu, Centipeder, and Lock Rock in the anime.

With the power of punches.

Ryukyu does not appear to be an albino.

Unless that was just special lighting making her look whiter than she actually is.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 16th 2019 at 9:44:51 AM

Huh, apparently that new character book that's coming out will also include a conversation between Horikoshi and Tite Kubo. Neat.

I did not expect Lock Rock's outfit to be bright yellow.