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kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#527: Oct 17th 2018 at 5:11:43 AM

So apparently this show has 81% on Rotten Tomatoes.

why

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#528: Oct 17th 2018 at 5:23:00 AM

Maybe its better than the trailers made it seem?

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FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#529: Oct 17th 2018 at 7:40:50 AM

Promo for episode 2

Geoff and his suppose "love" of Dawn as Dove

First thing he does now that he can have her and Hank as a couple is have her revealed to have cheated on Hank with Dick.

I'm getting mixed signals here Geoff

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#530: Oct 17th 2018 at 8:09:39 AM

[up]Oh, he loves her alright. Just not in the way you're thinking.tongue

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#531: Oct 17th 2018 at 8:34:12 AM

... at this point I just don't get it

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#533: Oct 21st 2018 at 3:46:49 PM

If this does turn it to be good after all, it admittedly wouldn’t be the first decent show marred by an awful PR campaign.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#535: Oct 22nd 2018 at 12:31:17 PM

Oh great, more SJW pandering

Ha, you fell for it :P

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#536: Oct 22nd 2018 at 2:12:28 PM

"That's not an account name I associate with controversial opinions bigotry- waaaait a minute."

I don't get any personal pleasure out of reading "show plans to introduce LGBT character." To me that's social pan-handling and it defeats the point of being diverse in the first place, but apparently a great number of creators disagree because I'm seeing more and more shows advertising something along the lines of, "we're introducing this LGBT (character/story arc/episode). Get hype!" I think it'd be more effective if said character just showed up.

The f-ck do I know, though.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#537: Oct 22nd 2018 at 2:21:35 PM

Hard to say.

So, Bunker, huh? That's nice, I suppose. I was thinking someone would be caught by Adaptational Sexuality, but hope it does a good job. Didn't he debut on the New 52 in a bad era for the Titans? Hopefully they don't botch it.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#538: Oct 22nd 2018 at 2:24:23 PM

I tried reading the New 52 Teen Titans comics but Continuity Lockout ensued. Apparently the storyline had continued on in several other series, so that the immediate next issue had nothing to do with its predecessor. Don't nobody got time for that.

I liked what little I read with Bunker in it, though.

Edited by Eagal on Oct 22nd 2018 at 2:25:08 AM

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#539: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:53:45 PM

I wouldn't recommend New 52 as a starting point in general.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#540: Oct 23rd 2018 at 1:52:57 PM

Buy trades, buy trades, buy trades. Cheaper, should contain one encapsulated story arch, no ads, easier to store... If you're new to comics don't even bother with single issues. Go trades or go digital.

Anyways, HA. Add queerbaiting to the list of mistakes this production has stumbled into.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#541: Oct 23rd 2018 at 10:36:50 PM

It would only be queerbaiting if they don’t go through with it.

Edited by windleopard on Feb 25th 2019 at 10:52:34 AM

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#542: Oct 24th 2018 at 12:29:05 AM

I don't think that queerbaiting has an actual definition (Yet?) but I don't want to devalue the term so I will say I suspect it. But seriously we've all been burned enough times not to hold out hope.

Batwoman is getting her own show though so I needn't worry.

In other news this show's actually out now and I haven't seen an explosion of new memes. Disappointing.

Shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#543: Oct 24th 2018 at 5:23:45 AM

I was not expecting the nuclear family of all villians to show up

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#544: Oct 26th 2018 at 10:31:29 PM

I just started watching this show and it's better than I thought it would be, but first:

First thing he does now that he can have her and Hank as a couple is have her revealed to have cheated on Hank with Dick.
She didn't cheat on Hank with Dick. She was with Dick, he left, and then she was with Hank. Hank mentions that they've been together "three and a half years." The flashback where it was apparent that she and Dick were together was four years ago. No cheating involved.

In any case: I actually really like this show. Once you get past the hyperviolence done by the characters (and yes, it might be tough to get past), it actually is a pretty neat deconstruction of the normal way that you see superheroes: being a vigilante didn't appease Dick's need for revenge, but might have messed him up even further; Hank, after years of being a vigilante, not only has bruises and scars, but also needs a replacement hip (plus, he takes steroids in order to keep strong).

It's pretty nice to see superheroes treated with a degree of realism. Of course, that's not to say that the show is entirely realistic — the appearance of the Nuclear Family was a surprise, but a fun one, especially since they just seem so, well, neat. Like, I want to see an entire spin-off of them going on missions and stuff.

The only thing marring this show (aside from, you know, the hyperviolence) is the unnecessary fridging of Amy Rohrbach and Dawn. Yes, I know Dawn's not dead, but she was put into a coma just to give Dick and Hank manpain. Hopefully, when she gets out of the coma, she will kick ass and we will see her deal with her relationship in a more adult manner (I'm tired of goddamn love triangles). Amy Rohrbach's death, however, was just forgotten about — Dick learned about it and then that was it. Which is sad, because I could see her becoming a good recurring character, the Commission Gordon to Dick's Batman.

Add queerbaiting to the list of mistakes this production has stumbled into.
That's not what "queerbaiting" means. "Queerbaiting" is when a show hints that maybe two characters are queer/will get together, but never actually goes through with it. The biggest offender being Sherlock.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 26th 2018 at 10:33:40 AM

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#545: Oct 27th 2018 at 7:28:14 AM

Its good that no cheating was involved but it does kinda make Dawn yet another one of dick's multiple conquests

Dawn's not dead... she's just in a coma for the next 5+ episodes

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#546: Oct 27th 2018 at 8:52:00 AM

There are so many jokes to be made about that.

Wake me up at your own risk.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#547: Oct 27th 2018 at 9:05:22 AM

Dawn's not dead... she's just in a coma for the next 5+ episodes
I know. "Fridging" isn't just about female characters dying, it's about female characters dying/put into a coma/getting maimed/depowered all so that the male characters can feel bad about it. The fact that when Dick was cradling Dawn's body, he was flashing back to his own life meant that it was definitely a fridging. They just need to make for it by having her wake up and kick ass.

(Also, it doesn't help that Minka Kelly is probably the best actor in the entire show and should have probably been a main character from the start.)

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#548: Oct 27th 2018 at 2:06:05 PM

IDK...

Minka might be a good actress but Her version of Dawn doesn't seem to have much going for her other then Impossibly perfect mate for Hank and Dick to fight over and be concerned for

Which again is par the course with how Geoff writes Dawn

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Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Oct 28th 2018 at 9:13:31 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#549: Oct 31st 2018 at 6:12:26 PM

Preview of the Doom Patrol episode.

So far, we haven't actually heard Cliff or Larry speak. I wonder if they changed their voices since they got new voice actors for their own show? Or maybe they just don't talk in this episode? That would be kind of weird. But then again, per the clip, it's going to be a weird show, which is par for the course with the Doom Patrol.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#550: Nov 2nd 2018 at 11:46:49 PM

I. Fucking. Loved. This. Episode.

You can read my thoughts on it here. Suffice to say, I am hyped for the Doom Patrol show now.


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