DC Comic's "Titans"

It's an interesting thing, the way we personify weapons. Knives and small arms are associated with thieves and murderers. So are hatchets and axes. Swords of all types are associated with heroes (and most series where villains wield them will also feature a hero that does as well, and does so in a superior way), and thanks more or less to anime and video games so are greatswords. Maces and flails are associated with brutishness. Etc.

The only weapons that don't really get that treatment, at least in the sense that there isn't mostly the one character type we associate with it, are guns. Probably because culture internalized the idea that it's a weapon that anyone can have ages ago. One of the trope codifiers for guns in characterization in the states is the wild west, and stories about it, and in that time basically everyone from the guy robbing to the sheriff stopping him to the doctor patching you up carried a firearm, so there isn't a specific character type to hop to for something like that.

Guns are definitely the one weapon that gets very different treatment depending on where the media in question is being produced, although I do find it interesting how different types of guns get characterized. Look at who uses a Remington 820 in comparison to who wields a Walther PPK.

Guns as a whole don't get personified, but gun models do.

And in that way they are not different from how swords are. Swords as whole aren't super personified, but individual types of swords are.

Bows, axes and the like don't tend to get that small "By the model" characterization

EDIT: There's a Photoshop◊ of the cast picture going around, which just mostly tunes the skin colors, and I gotta say, It makes the cast look better. In that I can tell what's this supposed to be without being told.

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 15th 2018 at 10:52:23 AM

Maybe it's just me, but does anyone think Beast Boy's head and neck look... off? It's like they're too big for his body.

Okay that Jason Todd promo warmed me up a bit to the show.

There was actual legitimately funny humor.

Ironic how levity for this show came from the appearance of Jason a.k.a. the Edgy Robin.

Jason didn't become the edgy Robin until he died. While has was alive, he was every bit as kind and herioc as any other member of the Bat family.

Jason being an edge lord Pre-Red Hood is more revitionism. Usually from writers who want to make his death seem like his fault.

No it it’s not. Dyed-hair Jason was just Dick 2.0, but he was deliberately made edgier when he became natural-hair Jason.

He wasn't any edgier than any other member of the Bat family. Yeah he talked back to Batman and didn't always follow the plans. Every Robin from Dick Grayson to Damian Wayne has done that.

Edited by windleopard on Sep 16th 2018 at 10:00:58 AM

He strangled Two-Face, smoked, and may or may not have killed a guy. Hell he started off by boosting the batmobiles tire, fighting Batman with the tire iron, and talking about his in prison dad and his probably OD’d mom. Mind you, I am not implying he was max 80’s edge but he was a deliberate product of the time.

Dick Grayson once beat the Joker to the point his heart stopped beating and Tim Drake had to be talked out of killing a guy he thought had murdered his girlfriend by Huntress of all people. Stealing tires wasn't edginess, it was a kid from the streets trying to survive. They weren't showing him that way to score cool points with Batman or the audience. And of course, it's never been proven he killed the rapist diplomat. Besides, we all know the proper way to deal with rapists in the DCU is to wipe their minds.

Being brutal isn't a trait unique to Jason among the Bat family. Pre-Red Hood Jason Todd was an idealistic kid who died trying to save his mother.

Edited by windleopard on Sep 16th 2018 at 10:32:28 AM

Jason being the son of drug addicts and a common thief was edgy, it took twenty years for an edgier Robin orgin. You are sighting things that happened closer to his resurrection than his death, all of which happened after the CCA disappeared. Jason is less edgy ‘’now’’ because standards and practices moved on. And even then, Nightwing killed the Joker because of Jason’s death rattling him, Tim was doing it for revenge, Damien was raised by assassins, Jason was beating a pimp to death because he didn’t like the fact he slapped women around.

I don't know what you mean here.

I know that. I'm saying he wasn't all that edgy before his resurrection and no more so than any other Robin.

And these are all different how? Seriously, what's the difference between Tim trying to kill a guy out of revenge (a guy who wasn't even guilty of the thing Tim was accusing him of) and Jason beating on a pimp who mistreats women? Hell, it isn't like we haven't seen Batman treat such criminals in similar ways.

Also, Dick didn't kill the Joker. Bruce saved hims with CPR because he's a masochist like that. And it wasn't over Jason's death. It was Dick thinking the Joker had killed Tim.

Meaning, pre-Red Hood Jason at least only went after guys that were guilty over what he had a beef with them over.

Edited by windleopard on Sep 16th 2018 at 11:20:11 AM

Moreover, nearly all of the edgy moments from the other Robins came after Jason paved the way for it.

Jason’s remembered as the edgy Robin because he’s the codifier for it in the Batverse, not because he’s the only Robin to ever do anything edgy.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 17th 2018 at 7:29:30 AM

Too bad that scene doesn't lead to Dick and Jason stealing the Batmobile, getting fast food in it and giving it back with a Mystery Machine paint job.

Now you’re reminding me of those bits in the comics (Young Justice, I think. Impulse is involved, but so is B.B., so I’m not sure) where Tim gets peer pressured into stealing the Batmobile. Both hilarious.

New character trailers. I do like how Beast Boy's spotlight is appropiately more comedic compared to the others.:

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Sep 28th 2018 at 3:56:13 PM

Starfire really needs to lose the fur coat. Otherwise, a marked improvement from the "Fuck Batman!" trailer.

Unavailable in my country.

Racists.

This show is batting a thousand with skin tones . Isn't Raven's skin supposed to turn blood red when Trigon takes over? And Beast Boy's skin turns back to normal all of a sudden or was that always a thing?

The tone of each trailer fits each character though. That's good to see.

Edited by Soble on Sep 30th 2018 at 9:02:01 AM

I have an idea for a drinking game when "Titans" comes out. What do you think of this:

1. Take a shot when Robin drops an F bomb. Down the whole bottle during the "F Batman" scene .

2. Take a shot when Raven screams when using her powers.

3. Take a shot when Beast Boy transforms.

4. Take a shot when Starfire is seen in a different outfit.

5. Take a shot when a pacifist character in the comic draws blood (Robin, Dove, etc) .

It's incomplete for now, but it should do with the trailers we see.

Isn't it odd to have Beast Boy transforming as part of the game given how it's what you expect?

And when was Robin a pacifist?

6.Die of liver poisoning.

Titans will air on Netflix outside of the US.

Oh and a new trailer.

Edited by windleopard on Oct 1st 2018 at 9:36:37 AM