Net Neutrality

And what's the long version? Preferably with a link?

I was going to post about it, but I was moving in a hurry at that point.

Attempts to weaken the bill failed and it's moving forward in the House and Senate. So basically stuff is still ongoing, but we scored a win here.

I have no doubt it'll pass through the House quickly, and die in the Senate just as fast.

So they're voting on it tomorrow.

Not that I think it'll do much good, but call your reps regardless. Couldn't hurt

Is it possible they're being flooded over this? Because I tried to find the number for my Rep just now and the site is screwed up.

Not that he'd be likely to be on the right side here even with poking, the shit.

A vote regarding net neutrality occurred yesterday, does anyone know the results?

The committee voted in favor of it; it’s in the House as I type this.

I've heard Trump is going to Veto it

Which would probably be the least surprising news ever.

It won’t get the chance, sadly. There’s a chance as many as 3 republicans in the senate will vote in favor, in an attempt to appear moderate (though those “moderates” never take the opposite side if it’d actually make a difference) but the “effort” would be only because they’d not actually get it through the Senate.

Edit since this is still the latest post: Hey, it just passed the House. I wish that meant anything in the long run, but it’s nice enough.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Apr 10th 2019 at 11:54:56 AM

Meh.

More detail for

The House voted to revive net neutrality regulations, which bans broadband providers from blocking or throttling internet traffic. The legislation will likely fail in the GOP-controlled Senate. (Politico / The Hill)

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/438100-house-votes-to-reinstate-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules

A US federal appeals court has upheld most of the FCC's repeal of net neutrality, but declared they don't have the legal authority to stop state level net neutrality laws.

At least it's something, hopefully it'll go further.

Have any of the 2020 Democratic candidates had anything to say on the subject?

most of the Democrats are pro-Net Neutrality, but i'm not sure which ones are in the pocket of the IS Ps (btw, which page does the Democratic primary discussion start in the US Politics thread? i haven't kept up)

Kyrsten Sinema has been a consistent and vocal opponent of net neutrality, and has apparently been receiving hefty donations from ISPs. She is apparently the lone Democrat against it.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Oct 2nd 2019 at 12:35:19 PM

She also voted for Kavanaugh. Great job, Arizona

Don't worry, the Republican we didn't vote for ended up in the Senate anyway.

I can see Mc Sally being voted out in 2020. Maybe not easily, but it could happen

At long last, some good news:

https://qz.com/1721633/us-net-neutralitys-crushing-defeat-this-week-may-end-up-saving-it/?utm_source=reddit.com

Sounds great for people who live in states that choose to uphold net neutrality.

To be fair that's a large chunk of the population, and it means that the ISP's will be having a hard time.

But this article tells me that the solution is to nationalize them, after all, if they've fought for years to deregulate their inelastic market then it's safe to say that they're a natural monopoly and should not exist.

The article also seems to indicate that state-by-state rules will end up favouring net neutrality instead of favouring stripping it because the companies can't afford (financially or logistically) to uphold net neutrality in certain states and have no net neutrality in other states. Having individual states with net neutrality rules will create a trend that will end up forcing companies to move in the direction of national net neutrality even if there are no federal level net neutrality laws.

It's almost like the article is saying that the companies may be winning individual legal battles, but they're ultimately losing the legal war — and it looks like they didn't really win this legal battle either. It seems like their only option now for killing off net neutrality for good is to take states to court, one at a time, and somehow win every single time — which the article seems to indicate is highly unlikely.

The article also indicates that one other thing the companies lost in this legal battle was the right to classify the Internet as a telecom service (it has to be classified as an information service instead), which has effectively killed off the right to apply a whole host of laws to ISP services. The article seems to be implying this is a good thing. Does anyone more know anything more about the consequences of this?

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 6th 2019 at 12:42:08 PM

One that springs to mind: attempts to choke and/or extort streaming competitors who happen to have a robust documentary/news aspect to their service pack?

Just became a lot harder.