Supergirl TV Series

So after skipping out on the last few episodes of the last season. I decided to give this season a shot.

I see we're diving headfirst into political commentary.

Honestly the fact that everyone was cool with the President being secretly a alien has bothered me.I mean no one was concern about the security breaches that took place in order to make that happen?

Anyway I'm glad this was addressed

Why does it being her show mean she can't be surpassed? Willow becoming more powerful than Buffy didn't change the name of the show.

Edited by windleopard on Oct 27th 2018 at 10:41:49 AM

Yeah, but there's a difference between mass produced technology and one or two other characters.

I really don't think the writers want to set up a situation where 100+ members of the DEO have Kryptonian or above level superpowers.

That said, I would totally dig it if Lena makes a bunch of lower level tech^note Pretty easy to justify, the more powerful stuff is too unsafe to use without in depth knowledge, and distributes it safety.

So you've got the DEO or something dealing with situations with lower tier aliens or humans with low level tech, to leave Kara and the big guns for more urgent situations.

Alright. Finally caught last weeks episode.

Do we know if the actress playing Nia is transgender like her character?

Yes, she is.

Huh. Now I know.

That's cool. Good representation and all that.

That episode was as creepy as it was depressing.

Dammit J'onn!

You could have put out the fire before you left!

Edit: Finished the episode. Wow, this whole thing was just a massive case of Disaster Dominoes huh?

Imagine how things would have gone if he hadn't decided to drive his father there that day...or if Alex hadn't lumped him in with the rest of the workers.

I blame her.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Oct 28th 2018 at 10:13:59 AM

That was an excellent episode and shows just how easily people can be radicalized against a group of people, especially if that group can be blamed for all their problems.

Sam Witwer's performance was brilliant. At first I really liked Ben, then I felt sorry for him, and then I hated him.

I blame Alex for lumping him in with the other rioters and not even giving him a chance to explain himself...

...and you know, all the alien invasions.

It's incredibly sad how someone who spoke for alien rights flipped so hard.

The entire damn cast contributed in radicalizing him, without even realizing it. That's the tragic part.

Yeah. It's very depressing.

Lockwood didn't go bad because, one time, someone didn't acknowledge him as better than the people around him - it's not even mentioned after that point, so zeroing in on Alex as the reason he went bad doesn't make a lot of sense. He went bad because he was faced with an increasingly insurmountable problem, and when the time came to steel himself he instead chose to blame others for his problems - a little at first, and then completely.

The point where the Start of Darkness really began, I think, is when he first learned that the FBI was working with Supergirl, and instead of realizing that they're working together to protect people (including saving his life), he chose to internalize his father's idea that the law is working with someone they supposedly shouldn't.

That lead to everything that built his later ideology. He goes on to hate Lena because he believes she is working with aliens to the expense of humans. As the slippery slope falls, he goes on to lash out at James even though, by James own admission, the papers are covering the human angle of tragedy, because they're not doing enough by his standards and thus are acting at the expense of humanity - and then decides that James is part of his woes because he works for Lena. Etc and so on, until everything wrong that happens to him feeds into his ideology that the world is coddling aliens when it should be catering to him - and by extension humanity, since he conflates his woes with all of humanity - leading to him selectively remembering the genuine accident that started the dominoes as an outright assault, just like his father.

There's also a fun theme about the willingness to change vs progress. Lockwood's father started everything by, when faced with the choice to change to Nth metal over the old ways, refusing to do so because it wasn't "American." And as a result his factory went under, and by the time the option to switch Nth metal was brought up again it was too late: they were too penniless to do so, and the Lockwoods had already been left behind by the merciless march of progress - which Lockwood Sr. and later Ben choose to blame on the people who made the choice he was unwilling to, and aliens in general. When the plot begins, Ben is tauting the joys of progress but goes unheard. The worst happens, and instead of accepting that it happened because he was unheard, he flips. By the end of the episode, he hates the very idea of progress.

This was a really good Hourglass Plot. And, like a lot of the Aesops this season, a good message. Hatred, even unjustified, violent hatred, doesn't come from the ether, and the most dangerous thing about prejudice is the fact that most who exhibit it believe themselves to be the good guy. Bigots and hatemongers in media are often portrayed as born, pure evil, which accomplishes the necessary anvil of showing how awful and ugly that ideology is, but on the flipside misses the other necessary anvil that that kind of thinking isn't some kind of Saturday morning concept that's separate from our genuine lives: it's something that the average person can, and indeed do grow to embody and purport no matter how vile it is. So it falls to us to maintain perspective on our own lives and make the right choices, lest one day we wake up to find ourselves monsters.

ENTIRELY UNRELATED: So, the entire planet is inhabitable for Kryptonians right now. Cool. Nobody stops to check up on Superman. Y'know, see if Clark isn't dead and all. Is he offworld right now or something?

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 29th 2018 at 8:11:53 AM

He's apparently hanging out at the Argo colony with his aunt.

Though one must wonder what's happened to that other Supergirl in Kaznia.

It depends on if she's actually a Kryptonian or not. I'm guessing since she was "born" on Earth, she doesn't have the same Kryptonite weakness as actual Kryptonians.

I too really liked this episode.

I'm still wondering if the writers are going to deal with Alex's issues again this season though.

That scene she had with Ben felt sorta, not close but adjacent, to the brutality issues she's had before.

James was also really jerkish this episode. The whole loophole insurance thing feels like something a major news network should be interested in.

Especially since it seems like the amount of people affected is not so large that negative press couldn't convince the companies to change their minds for the positive publicity.

I like to think half the people in the Alien Bar know Kara is totally an alien, but respect her desire to pretend to be human.

Edited by 32ndfreeze on Oct 30th 2018 at 8:55:34 PM

Well, she opently drank some liquor that was deadly to humans with Mon-El last season, so I would assume at least someone knows.

EDIT: I just checked. Those drinks where ordered for them by another patron, so they definitely know. Then again, the Bar is supposed to be a save haven for aliens, why would anyone there expose Kara?

Edited by ZheToralf on Oct 30th 2018 at 9:53:42 AM

It's not like Kryptonians are the only aliens in the setting who appear indistinguishable from humans.

Yes, they dont necessarily know that Kara is Supergirl, but they know she's an alien.

Found this article yesterday:

Supergirl fans have mixed feelings about "Man of Steel".

It seems that, due to some of the real life issues going on in the world, this episode might have irked some people.

That's Comic Book dot com. They will find a way to write an article about anything. Most of the responses I've seen to the episode have been good to great.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 30th 2018 at 10:10:48 AM

Good to know.

Whelp I wonder how long this issue is gonna last. I think the Lead poisoning was still in the atmosphere well into season 3, so we know this lasts a long time.

Gonna be interesting to see Kara have to adapt to this situation. We know it won't stop her from trying to help people though.

Some people where pissed that Supergirl did a "both sides" story, I disagree. It is important to show where these people came from and that some of them have legitimate concerns which, if not adressed (from outside or inside), can help radicalize them.