Scooby Doo General

Fred's dad also a bad guy in Be Cool Scooby Doo in the Professor Huh two parter series finale.

Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Dec 21st 2021 at 8:46:31 AM

As I stated in the WB thread, SCOOB! will be back with another movie: SCOOB: Holiday Haunt Although, rather than a direct sequel, it's a midquel set around the Gang's first Christmas together as kids.

According to returning creative Tony Cervone, who's working with Paul Dini, the story will be more "intimate" and have an emphasis on mystery in comparison to the first film. Furthermore, the production is expected to be on the same level as the first film, despite being an HBO Max original.

There's a very brief glimpse around 1:34:

x2 Man, Fred just doesn't get to have any good relation with any of his fathers, does he? Heck, I don't even remember Fred's family appearing in A Pup Named Scooby Doo (other then his Uncle who ran a conspiracy tabloid and was being terrorized by Chickenstein).

As mentioned, Fred's dad was just fine in Pirates Ahoy (based more or less on the What's New continuity).

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 26th 2021 at 1:52:03 AM

So that's three times we've gotten an actual portrayal of Fred's family, and only one of them is positive.

I came away from Mystery Inc. feeling really sorry for Fred. After the timey-wimey business at the end, all of the kids' lives were Marty Mc Flyed to a degree, but Shaggy, Velma, and Daphne's relationships with their parents didn't substantially change. Fred's life was the most altered—in the new timeline, both his biological parents have become good people who raised him themselves, but his memory is entirely of them from when they were villains. The guy who raised him, of whom he has some positive memories even if he was a villain himself, is now his just his soccer coach. And then, rather then get time to adjust, he and the others take off on a road trip to Miskatonic University.

Speaking of Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated:

Derrick J. Wyatt, character designer for the show, has passed away according to Josh Perez.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Dec 26th 2021 at 11:58:02 AM

As I go through the original Scooby-Doo I'm developing an obsession with figuring out where they are.

I admit I get disproportionately happy when I somehow manage to figure out who the culprit is before the characters do.

In Scooby Doo, Where are You? they're almost always in and around their hometown, wherever their hometown is. A Pup Named Scooby Doo called it Coolsville, as did, I believe, the live action films. In Mystery Inc, it's Crystal Cove, and that's the name given for they're home town in at least two of the more recent straight-to-video animated films, too. As far as the original series goes, though, most theories are that the gang's hometown is somewhere on the West Coast of the US, probably in California (some people have claimed it's supposed to be San Francisco).

In Where are You they travel in "A Tiki Scare is No Fair," and "That's Snow Ghost." "Mine Your Own Business" takes place in a old-western ghost town, and might not be too far from wherever they live. Confusing things a bit is "Which Witch is Which?" where they appear to be in a southern swamp that they stumbled upon just by getting lost, and "Haunted House Hang-Up" where the Mystery Machine overheats in front of what looks like a very old-South type mansion.

The New Scooby Doo Movies and subsequent series had the gang travelling quite a bit, throughout the US and all around the world.

In Scooby Doo, Where are You? they're almost always in and around their hometown, wherever their hometown is. A Pup Named Scooby Doo called it Coolsville, as did, I believe, the live action films. In Mystery Inc, it's Crystal Cove, and that's the name given for they're home town in at least two of the more recent straight-to-video animated films, too. As far as the original series goes, though, most theories are that the gang's hometown is somewhere on the West Coast of the US, probably in California (some people have claimed it's supposed to be San Francisco).

In Where are You they travel in "A Tiki Scare is No Fair," and "That's Snow Ghost." "Mine Your Own Business" takes place in a old-western ghost town, and might not be too far from wherever they live. Confusing things a bit is "Which Witch is Which?" where they appear to be in a southern swamp that they stumbled upon just by getting lost, and "Haunted House Hang-Up" where the Mystery Machine overheats in front of what looks like a very old-South type mansion.

The New Scooby Doo Movies and subsequent series had the gang travelling quite a bit, throughout the US and all around the world.

What's New also had them basically globe-trotting. They had like one episode in their hometown.

On the chance of creating a rabid argument.

For the DTV which do you think works best. The monsters being real or fake.

I ask this because I was thinking of the DTV I liked and the shows of the Scrappy era.

I admit most of mine have real monsters because it changes the game, yet a few with fake monsters I enjoyed greatly.

So what do you guys think?

I like a mix of both the best, but I feel like movies where everything is fake aren't as good because this is a Scooby-Doo movie, the stakes should be upped a bit more than the average episode.

Even if the monster is ultimately fake, the movies really seem like the right place to go bonkers with whatever the plot is.

But I like seeing real monsters around at times. It really changes things up and adds some extra danger to the story.

Edited by Blueace on Feb 2nd 2022 at 1:44:03 PM

A mix of the two works. And besides, in a world where monsters exist, pretending to be one would be even more legitimate.

I like the classic scenario just fine, but I also don't mind mixing it up a bit. I like it, too, when it could go either way, or there are elements of the mystery that can't be readily explained. It doesn't need to be one or the other, all the time.

I remember they advertised Zombie Island as the first Scooby Doo adventure to feature real monsters/ghosts, but that wasn't true, as they'd had real monsters during the Scrappy era, and in 13 Ghosts, The Reluctant Werewolf, and Ghoul School. It was the first to have real supernatural menaces that featured the whole original gang together.

I know one shouldn't worry about hard-and-fast continuity in Scooby Doo, but it bugged me in Frankencreepy when they said that Velma was the youngest member of the Dinkley family when Abracadabra Doo not only gave us her younger sister Madeline, but Frankencreepy actually had a clip from Abracadabra Doo that featured Madeline (of course, they make a few joke about their own inconsistencies at the close of that film, so maybe that clip was in the nature of a nod and a wink). It also bugged me that Velma didn't know who Scrappy was in Scooby Doo and the Curse of the 13th Ghost. It further bugged me a bit that Daphne alludes to the events of !3 Ghosts of Scooby Doo happening in Mystery Inc (there's a statue of Flim Flam in the town museum, and she says he's in jail) while Vincent Van Ghoul is a horror movie star who Daphne, Shaggy, and Scooby had never met before later in the series. That's not just bad continuity, it's bad internal consistency.

I don't let these things ruin the show in question for me, but it seems in most cases they're inconsistencies that arise to make a joke work, when the joke isn't even all that great. Since they were going to have Vincent Van Ghoul show up in Mystery Inc, there really wasn't any reason to do the Flim Flam joke, since bringing in Van Ghoul acknowledges 13 Ghosts, and acknowledgement seems like the only reason to mention Flim Flam. In The Curse of the 13th Ghost they could have easily had Velma say something like "We don't talk about Scrappy," or even just "Don't ask."

Edited by Robbery on Feb 2nd 2022 at 9:58:33 AM

For me, the traditional SD canon ends with 13 Ghosts. To my mind, Daphne Shaggy, Flim and Scrappy are still out there searching for the elusive 13th ghost and just never caught him, and they mentor a new generation to pick up the responsibility.

I grew up on the Scrappy era, and most of that didn't involve the whole gang, so I never minded that Fred and Velma were phased out. I thought it was natural for the gang to grow apart.

Edited by Zarius on Feb 7th 2022 at 12:09:42 PM

For me, I grew up in the era of 13 Ghosts, but I somehow only ever saw Scooby Doo in weekday reruns, which in my area consisted of everything up until the show jettisoned Fred and Velma. I never even heard of 13 Ghosts until it aired on TBS in the '90's.

I saw 13 Ghosts, but I'm pretty sure they were reruns. I was however, somewhat invested in it, because it had an ongoing story, whereas typical Scooby-Doo is strictly episodic with no story arc of any kind. I wanted to see what the 13 Ghosts were, and see if the gang was going to be able to capture all of them. The desire for a Scooby-Doo series with an story arc is what convinced me to give Mystery Incorporated a try.

I would legit love a remake of 13. I appreciated that they gave each of the ghosts their own personality. I love Scooby doo monsters but personality wasn't really their thing before this.

13 Ghosts is probably the most unique entry in the Scooby Doo franchise. I think Mystery Inc. is a better series, over all, but there's really nothing else like 13 Ghosts. While Mystery Inc. is more of a deconstruction of Scooby Doo, Where Are You? and the formulas and tropes it established (which is not to say it didn't have some original elements), 13 Ghosts struck off into completely new territory.

My only real problem with 13 Ghosts is that it lacks the original gang which, in my opinion, is essential.

True, but Get a Clue is so different that it's barely Scooby-Doo at all. It seems like more of an instance of someone having an idea for a show and then plugging Scooby and Shaggy into it. You could have put nearly any two characters (Fred and Barney, Yogi and Boo Boo, Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy) in that scenario and it would have been essentially the same show. 13 Ghosts still felt like it was in the Scooby Doo vein in that they confronted supernatural menaces, even if they were a completely different kind of supernatural menaces, and with greater stakes.

Edited by Robbery on Feb 9th 2022 at 7:13:22 AM

Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue is easily a close second, in that it's a completely different formula.

Some people may remember a teaser for a fan-made live-action series adaptation known as Mystery Incorporated. Its first 55-minute episode has finally debut:

The first peek at Mindy Kaling's Velma series has been revealed. It's certainly... something. Not something that resembles Scooby in any way, but something nonetheless.

So... This series ain't really a Scooby-Doo spinoff, it's basically an original IP with a Velma skin since both Scooby and Mystery Inc. in general don't exist at all in the series.