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#976: Aug 15th 2018 at 6:40:53 AM

how there are apparently 14 million alternate futures where Thor never axed Thanos in the head.

Thor wasn't a part of this battlefield. There is no ripple from their choices on Titan that arrives at Thor on Earth in the timeframe provided. He was never going to axe Thanos in the head no matter how Team Strange lost the Time Gem here.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 15th 2018 at 7:41:05 AM

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#977: Aug 15th 2018 at 6:51:27 AM

Undoubtedly at least one of the timelines Strange saw had the events go down exactly as they did, except that Thor hits Thanos in the head. That's not the point: clearly he doesn't see as good any outcome where the heroes cleanly defeat Thanos and seize the Infinity Gauntlet. I've never read the "Infinity War" stories in the comic universe, but from what I've gathered via osmosis, the stones are so powerful that anyone holding them and using them is a Bad Thing.

Strange isn't just trying to save this particular situation, he's trying to save the entire MCU from ultimate destruction. For that to happen, Thanos has to win, but the Avengers can't obviously throw the fight.

Edited by Fighteer on Aug 15th 2018 at 10:50:24 AM

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#978: Aug 21st 2018 at 1:31:25 PM

(Deadpool 2 doesn't go where one thinks it goes... or maybe it does?)

Edited by Ghilz on Aug 21st 2018 at 4:38:33 AM

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#979: Aug 21st 2018 at 5:49:21 PM

While unexpected and funny, I hope we get an actual Deadpool 2 Honest Trailer in the future.

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#980: Aug 21st 2018 at 6:08:08 PM

I doubt it. As Yahztee of Zero Punctuation points out, it's hard to take the piss out of something that is itself taking the piss.

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#981: Aug 22nd 2018 at 3:17:13 AM

Detective Pikachu ft Deadpool... its gotta happen.

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#982: Aug 22nd 2018 at 8:00:35 AM

[up][up]I disagree, there are many things you could bring up with Deadpool 2. I was personally expecting them to at least make a mention of the writers' inability to think of anything for Copycat to do besides be a dead sexy lamp for Deadpool, the TJ Miller controversies, or Deadpool thumbing its nose at other companies wringing their hands about depicting LGBT characters.

The fact that they didn't mention any of the obvious targets makes me believe that they're leaving the door open to do an actual Deadpool 2 Honest Trailer

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#983: Aug 28th 2018 at 1:23:20 PM

No regular honest trailer yet?

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#984: Aug 28th 2018 at 1:44:27 PM

No Honest Trailer this week. However, there will be one for Doctor Who in October.

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#985: Aug 28th 2018 at 9:31:02 PM

That's not the point: clearly he doesn't see as good any outcome where the heroes cleanly defeat Thanos and seize the Infinity Gauntlet. I've never read the "Infinity War" stories in the comic universe, but from what I've gathered via osmosis, the stones are so powerful that anyone holding them and using them is a Bad Thing.

In such a case it seems like it'd be really easy for him to tell them "don't touch the Infinity Gauntlet after we get it off, uhhh, it'll explode your brain". Or for him to just swipe it and toss into an unreachable pocket dimension. He's way more powerful than nearly all of them.

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#988: Sep 11th 2018 at 11:22:53 AM

The fact that they didn't mention any of the obvious targets makes me believe that they're leaving the door open to do an actual Deadpool 2 Honest Trailer

Pretty sure it's more "we don't want to step on the toes of Ryan Reynolds who gives us a ton of traffic by helping narrate some of these."

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#990: Sep 11th 2018 at 5:46:34 PM

[up][up]Oh, you cynic. tongue

The thought crossed my mind, but I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

The answer's probably a little of both, i.e., "Don't make things too uncomfortable for Ryan Reynolds since he's willing to work with us while he's advertising the home release, and save our Deadpool 2 material for a better time in the future, like say when Disney releases their version of the X-Men movies" wild mass guess

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#992: Sep 11th 2018 at 8:28:13 PM

I love the joke that half the cast of Predators were future US Governors or were running for Governor. Had the whole cast ran for Governors, this movie would have called "Governors the Movie" or "Predator vs Governors".

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#993: Sep 11th 2018 at 9:51:07 PM

I liked them point out how the first minute of the movie undermines a lot of the tension by revealing that the Predator is an Alien.

And I like that they point out that the Predator's doing the equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel, though I sort of wish they contrasted it with the onstensible "Sense of fair play" the movie otherwise pretends the Predator has.

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#994: Sep 12th 2018 at 7:44:31 AM

The Predator has no more sense of "fair play" than an African game hunter. It hunts for sport, but Yautja culture contains a strong element of "worthy foe recognition". When one of your targets displays the ability to fight back effectively, it becomes a matter of pride to take them down one-on-one, and a demonstration of the individual hunter's skill. Predators are expected to come back with their shields or on them, as it were.

Of course, from a narrative structure, you need a Final Girl (or guy), so obviously Conservation of Ninjutsu will apply to the heroes. Also, as we see in the movie, their attempts to fight back do deplete the Predator's resources, meaning that it loses the ability to blow Dutch away from 100 meters.

Added: I think it's supposed to be clear from the beginning that the Predator can easily kill all of them if it wants to, but again, it's hunting for sport.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 12th 2018 at 10:47:37 AM

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#995: Sep 12th 2018 at 8:00:00 AM

But the "target's" ability to fight back is practically immaterial, Lowered Monster Difficulty aside, since the gap between the predator and its targets is so huge. Like, the fact it won't target someone with no weapon is comical, because 90% of the time someone with no gun is as little a threat as someone with a gun.

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 12th 2018 at 10:59:39 AM

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#996: Sep 12th 2018 at 8:04:06 AM

The lore that's been developed around the Predator franchise paints that as a part of their culture. Again, they aren't just murdering people for the sake of murder. They want to prove their superiority to all other life forms, and killing a non-combatant does nothing to advance that agenda, nor does nuking the planet (which they are entirely capable of doing).

Their targets can fight back — the Yautja are not Immune to Bullets or anything like that. Their technology provides them with enormous advantages, but they are in very real danger whenever they go on a hunt. They also tend to equip themselves for hunts in ways that they consider "sporting". For example, in Alien vs. Predator, the Yautja that go to that Antarctic pyramid aren't fully equipped: their plasma weapons are something they have to acquire on location, as a means of proving their skills.

They aren't looking for a duck hunt; they are looking for a challenge. They test their targets and toy with them to see if they are able to put up a fight. They want worthy foes.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 12th 2018 at 11:08:42 AM

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#997: Sep 12th 2018 at 8:30:12 AM

They aren't looking for a duck hunt; they are looking for a challenge. They test their targets and toy with them to see if they are able to put up a fight. They want worthy foes.

My counter point is that THEY ARE looking for a Duck Hunt. Since their targets, for the most part, don't even know what's going on for most of this. Heck, the Predators first victims always get killed right the fuck out of nowhere not even knowing they could be hunted by an invisible space alien.

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#998: Sep 12th 2018 at 12:47:49 PM

[up]Last I checked ducks can't murder you the second they're aware of your existence, I think there needs to be some difference between "fighting them completely fairly" vs "a duck hunt".

Once a Predator starts hunting their human prey then they have a very real chance of surviving, it uses invisibility for the same reason hunters use guns or bows. They're a tool using species and thus aren't going to cripple themselves in the name of fairness.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 12th 2018 at 3:47:37 PM

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#999: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:47:38 AM

Let's put it this way: an African game hunter could bomb their prey from aircraft, or disperse mustard gas throughout the savannah. But that's not "manly" or "sporting" or whatever you call it. Obviously it's not fair, but fairness isn't the point; it's the skill of the hunt, and there's no skill or glory in killing defenseless people.

The Predators walk a line wherein they are superior enough to their targets to have a decisive advantage but not so superior that the targets have no chance of fighting back at all.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 13th 2018 at 12:51:37 PM

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#1000: Sep 13th 2018 at 10:49:53 AM

Don't mind me, just wanted to make the one-thousandth post. tongue

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