Undertale/Deltarune

Maybe there'll be a time travel chapter go-back system implemented? I'm sure at leas tone game's tried that kinda thing, going back in time to an earlier chapter and doing stuff to influence the later chapters.

I'm gonna guess that one game would either be Live A Live or Chrono Trigger?

Did you check the mountain where you first slid down into Ralsei's town? I found the Jevil equipment just lying there.

I just realized that if Queen is Lancers mom, its the perfect explanation for his face

He's literally part Internet of course his face can Become a Meme

This is just a minor QoL thing, but I wish that the color of the Battle Board's frame would change depending on who's currently being attacked (blue for Kris, purple for Susie, etc.) instead of just having their sprite(s) glow, since I often find myself forgetting who's being attacked because I'm too focused on dodging and then end up caught off guard when someone just either lost a ton of health or outright died.

So according to the game's code the official name for the "you abused noelle you actual piece of shit" route is the "Weird Route." Should we start using that?

Well, it fits. And if it's official then no reason to not use it.

Edited by NesClassic on Sep 19th 2021 at 12:03:12 PM

Well, I went back into chapter one and beat Jevil. It didn't retcon anything into my chapter 2 save, but I'll see if chapter 3 collects the shadow crystal when that comes out. If not, I'll just redo chapter 2.

I'll get to work on it in a bit then.

EDIT: There's a commented out note about not changing terminology. But we kinda have an official name for it now.

Edited by MightyKombat on Sep 19th 2021 at 5:24:46 PM

Stuff like this really comes down to how the fandom treats it and if it catches on.

So Queen is probably my absolute favorite character in either game now. I jive with her sense of humor much better than the rest of the characters, and I think the majority of them are funny.

And her alignment hinges almost entirely on her knowing whether or not her plan will end the world or not. When she does she goes "Oh Fuckles I Actually Did Not Know That I'm Super Sorry Wanna Be Buds"

rather interesting contrast with King. As he is both willing to damn the world and unrepentant about it.

BTW, I'm suspecting that Deltarune will evolve into a spectrum of endings. Including a True Pacifist route (likely to be canon), a no Mercy route (also likely to be canon), and a variety of neutral endings depending on how the SOUL acts in each of the chapters.

I'm also thinking that how the player will act in one chapter would affect subsequent chapters, with Noelle bring a good indicator of what's to come, either eventually become a more frequent ally or supporter if you spared everyone in C2, to becoming more of a (doomed) Hero Antagonist to the SOUL's Villain Protagonist if you force her to freeze nearly everyone solid. Likewise I'm expecting Kris to fight the SOUL outright as the Final Boss with the route implying the context, and by extension what role would the two combatants take at the end of it all

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Sep 19th 2021 at 10:16:31 AM

The funny thing is that while that's a summary and not what she actually said, that's all stuff she would actually say

Also back with Noelle, if you hack her into your party with Snow Grave, enemies instantly die from it. As in, actually die. They blow apart into blood red dust and everything. Its fucked up.

Edited by MightyKombat on Sep 19th 2021 at 7:03:49 PM

So Spamton needs Kris's soul so they can be a big shot, so tall they will overlook the darkness. A tall being. Like a Titan?

Someone did a dub of Spamton and it is incredibly blursed.

So, Kris can remove the SOUL to assume some degree of self-control, but puts it back in despite seemingly not wanting to be under the SOUL's influence/control. This suggests that despite evidently not liking it, Kris needs the SOUL. What if Kris lost their real SOUL in some kind of incident in the past and needs to keep the foreign SOUL as a substitute to stay alive or something? Just spitting out a wild guess here.

Looks like neither the soul or soulless Kris is good. The soul breaks Noelle and soulless Kris slashes tires and opens up another dark fountain despite knowing the truth of them.

The soul is what you choose it to be, violent, peaceful, somewhere in between, and as we’ve recently been shown, corruptive.

So speaking of violent, with the unused Snow Grave death animation, does that mean Darkners or Dark World monsters are sort of like Undertale monsters but with red dust or are they flesh and blood and Snow Grave is, in their case, fuckin' tearing them apart?

I suspect that the red dust is a bit of foreshadowing for other Fatal weapons and spells later, possibly including the True Knife if things end up going that way. As for the Darkners, I think they're closer to monsters than humans, without really being EITHER. They're made of darkness, so presumably breaking them down is a Cessation of Existence where they return to the darkness that made them.

The concept of the Titans is definitely giving me real Weapons vibes.

Glad I'm no the only one who felt that, the question is, if they get summoned, will they be as bad at their job as the WEAPONS?

Sounds about right, but maybe the real knife goes to someone else if Kris/The Player goes about things the same way they did in Weird route. After all, it's not them doing anything.

Anyway I brought up the Weird route name on the discussion page. No replies yet tho.