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Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#27026: Jan 28th 2023 at 11:50:10 AM

That might make more sense if Disney wasn't so infamously stingy about DVD releases for their cartoons. Like, they have maybe 10 shows you can easily get more than a few random episodes of on DVD and one of them was licensed out to Shout Factory somehow (Gravity Falls), and some of them never got completed releases (Kim Possible only got DV Ds for the first half of the show, for example). They've never seen home video as vital for their cartoons.

There's a couple shows that have gotten home video releases in the past year but it's still really random and scattershot. (Like, why Rescue Rangers, the Proud Family and Tangled: the Series? What's the pattern there?)

Edited by Zendervai on Jan 28th 2023 at 2:51:40 PM

Not Three Laws compliant.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#27027: Jan 28th 2023 at 12:31:14 PM

Disney's priority is the dvd releases of their animated films so when it comes to tv shows being released on DVD they weigh up things like supply and demand and I expect some of their decisions after that are arbitrary

Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 28th 2023 at 8:33:53 PM

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#27028: Jan 28th 2023 at 1:46:25 PM

[up][up] One got a movie, another a revival, and the third... well, I assume they wanted to put it out because it was relatively recent.

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Ookamikun Since: Jan, 2001
#27029: Jan 28th 2023 at 7:04:04 PM

I remember their power ranger home video releases being random and staggered too. I guess there wasn't a care about proper release before.

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#27030: Jan 28th 2023 at 8:33:25 PM

Yeah, I've always found it weird that Disney's Adventures of the Gummi Bears and Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers never got a complete release of DVD. Aladdin and Hercules never got one at all, and Gargoyles was only ever released by a third party. I remember hearing an interview with Tad Stones once where he even said he had no idea what governed how Disney's home media division operated.

Was House of Mouse ever in syndication? I thought it only ever aired on ABC. There was also Mickey's Mouse Works, from which it was spun off, which we also haven't seen hide nor hair of. Honestly, I don't see how making these shows available on Disney+, at least, would hurt them any.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#27031: Jan 28th 2023 at 8:35:51 PM

There were reruns on the Disney Channel and Toon Disney. (As for Mouse Works, most of the segments were basically repeated in House of Mouse so I think it may be redundant.)

The fact that they're not on there is an utter shame... but they'll always be desperate for content. They'll probably have to exhume it at some point.

(I'm also certain Disney's home media division was the one that put out Gargoyles, and Gravity Falls that came out via a third party, but that's beside the point.)

Edited by Aldo930 on Jan 28th 2023 at 8:39:21 AM

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Ookamikun Since: Jan, 2001
#27032: Jan 28th 2023 at 10:00:27 PM

I guess back then they didn't care about children's programming being "collected" so they were released sporadically.

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#27033: Jan 28th 2023 at 10:49:39 PM

[up][up][up] IIRC, there were legal issues regarding the term "gummi bear" that prevented Disney from explicitly calling the Gummi Bears by that name during the DuckTales (2017) episode that centered around the Gummi Berry Juice ("From the Confidential Case Files of Agent 22"). That same problem may have gotten in the way of Disney re-releasing Adventures of the Gummi Bears before they managed to get the whole series on Disney+.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#27034: Jan 29th 2023 at 5:55:39 AM

What issues? The name's public domain. Anyone can make their own gummy bears. (For that matter, why didn't it come up when Disney was making the cartoon back in the 80s?)

Edited by Aldo930 on Jan 29th 2023 at 5:56:00 AM

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#27035: Jan 29th 2023 at 5:57:25 AM

while the sweet itself can be made by anyone there are business that make them that probably consider the name part of their branding

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#27036: Jan 29th 2023 at 9:21:11 AM

Yeah, I might more readily accept that explanation if Disney didn't do the same kind of thing with a number of their Disney Afternoon series. If I remember correctly, the series that did get a complete release all took an inordinate amount of time to do so. Besides, I'm pretty sure "gummy bear" isn't something you can copyright (probably why Disney changed the spelling) because it describes a type of candy; it'd be like copyrighting "chocolate bar." Further, there's a CGI series, with no relation to Disney, that began in 2016 called "The Gummy Bear Show." I don't think it's existence impacted whether or not Disney did any further Gummi Bears releases, as the only volume of Disney's Adventures of the Gummi Bears to be released was released in 2006, but you'd think any problem with the name would've hit them too.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#27037: Jan 29th 2023 at 3:48:42 PM

I have that Gummi Bears DVD and am still sad we haven't gotten season 4-6.

But it's still better than whatever's going on with Fox's Peter Pan and the Pirates.

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#27038: Jan 29th 2023 at 6:37:01 PM

When it comes to Peter Pan And The Pirates, Jason Marsden eloquently expressed Disney's feelings about that.

But they haven't ever done much with the stuff from the Fox Kids library. The Marvel series are on Disney Plus. The Tick is thankfully on Hulu... but what about the rest of it? You'd think after Louie Anderson died last year, maybe Life With Louie would have reappeared...

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#27039: Jan 29th 2023 at 6:38:08 PM

One rabbi would say yes and the other would say no.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#27040: Jan 29th 2023 at 6:43:15 PM

Oh right. That one was owned by Fox. I'd forgotten. And now Fox is owned by Disney.

Yeah. Peter Pan & the Pirates is totally fucked.

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#27041: Jan 29th 2023 at 6:52:19 PM

I know this isnt the Owl House thread but god is it doing gangbusters. I will always be grateful to Phineas and Ferb who saved Creator driven cartoons on Disney.

No, really look!

https://disneytvanimation.com/post/671599743413207040/how-phineas-and-ferb-saved-disneys-tv-y7-cartoons

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#27042: Jan 29th 2023 at 7:25:10 PM

I remember hearing back in 2010 that PP&TP would get a DVD release in 2020.

it didn't.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#27043: Jan 29th 2023 at 8:36:44 PM

If it makes you feel any better, you can pretty much find the entirety of Peter Pan and the Pirates on Youtube.

Ookamikun Since: Jan, 2001
#27044: Jan 29th 2023 at 11:26:56 PM

Wait, Disney owns that cartoon too? Or is it by proxy because Fox?

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#27045: Jan 30th 2023 at 4:54:16 AM

They bought it in 2001 - when they bought Fox Family, the Fox Kids library came with it. Which is why you never see those shows anymore.

Edited by Aldo930 on Jan 30th 2023 at 4:54:51 AM

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#27046: Jan 30th 2023 at 1:54:40 PM

OMG I laughed so hard at "Someone copyrighting Chocolate Bar" that's just so delightfully silly.

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#27048: Jan 30th 2023 at 2:03:22 PM

I think what happened was Disney Lawyers not knowing if they could actually get in trouble for using the Gummi Bears and just didnt allow it out of fear even if they could have used them with no trouble.

That has happened before.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#27049: Feb 5th 2023 at 5:52:22 PM

So I found another round of press interviews for Muppets Mayhem, and this really stuck out to me.

Adam F. Goldberg: And also Bill. Bill is phenomenal. As a performer, he had never been allowed on the writing side, which is kind of nuts. No performer had ever really been, ground floor up. It’s generally, a showrunner comes in and they’re like, “I’m the showrunner. I know what [the] Muppets is. Here you go.” And then the performers will get it and “You broke up Kermit & (Miss) Piggy.”

Bill, to have him there, was so instrumental. “This just feels so right.” In fact, Dave, when he watched the first three episodes, “This feels like Jim Muppets.” That was great to hear.

There’s so many Muppet references that I cut that found there way back in. No one wants an Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas reference. This is going to alienate so many people. *Laughs*

If Dave freaking Goelz thinks your show feels like Jim Muppets, you know you’ve done something right.

Edited by megaeliz on Feb 5th 2023 at 8:58:06 AM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#27050: Feb 7th 2023 at 1:32:16 PM

Scar is getting his own comic book detailing his origins and events between scenes of the original movie.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Feb 7th 2023 at 4:40:25 AM

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