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Prime_of_Perfection Where force fails, cunning prevails Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#101: Mar 16th 2014 at 12:47:15 PM

There is good cheesy and bad cheesy. Super Megaforce is on the bad end of the scale & would ruin it even more.

I actually did wonder if maybe, maybe I'm being hard on Megaforce as a whole. Maybe the Power Rangers were always on this level and me growing up didn't realize it. So I rewatched some earlier stuff & looked at a few things from other seasons... Yeah, no, it's Megaforce. It's like Megaforce is trying hard to copy the past & doing so poorly.

Hmm... I wonder... how will they screw up the entire situation with Bosco in the Super Megaforce adaption? Just not include it, losing all those Ranger vs. Ranger moments? Or adapt his character overall in spirit, though that does raise question of how he has those Ranger keys.

edited 16th Mar '14 12:51:10 PM by Prime_of_Perfection

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#102: Mar 16th 2014 at 12:53:10 PM

personally, my fave moments of gokaiger were meeting the gaorangers and the carrangers. carrangers for the sheer wtf of that entire episode (the situation got so confused both the Gokaigers and the Zangyack stared in rapt confusion)

Agreed. The Carranger episode was insane, and awesome because of it.

Disapointed by how few cameos we've had in Super Megaforce. Gokaiger had a cameo from a past ranger every 2nd or third episode. You'd think Super Megaforce could keep that pace after they cut down the episode count by half to begin with? No.

edited 16th Mar '14 12:53:27 PM by Ghilz

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#103: Mar 16th 2014 at 1:55:42 PM

[up][up] I watched some clips of old Power Rangers, and while it's really cheesy, there's a lot of heart put into it. You can tell that they cared to make a TV show and tell a story, and not just hock toys onto kids. Megaforce has no soul, and overall no story (which I feel is the season's biggest issue). Even Samurai had a story, and that season was a mess.

I seriously doubt that Basco or a similar character will show up. All the episode descriptions ensure that there's no Basco.

Here's what we know. Spoilers of course. Next week: Jungle Fury tribute. Episode 7 & 8: Gokai Silver introduction. Episode 9: Gokai Silver Gold Mode. Episode 10: Sounds like an original story with Tensou (remember him?). Episode 11: Jealousto (originally the Carranger tribute). Episode 12: Dino Thunder tribute (AKA Ahim fanservice). Episode 13: Jake & Noah switch bodies (a change from Gokaiger which had Luka and Don switch bodies, I guess male and female switching is a big no-no). Episode 14: RPM tribute. Episode 15: Vekar's death (possibly Argus' as well).

Episode 20 is the Legend War. My guess for 16-19 is the deaths of Damaras, Levira, and the Emperor (whatever his name will be). Maybe another tribute.

Basically, no time for Basco, or character development, or a story. God damn Saban...

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#104: Mar 16th 2014 at 2:01:22 PM

Hate Nickelodeon.

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#105: Mar 16th 2014 at 4:23:48 PM

Actually I was just about to point that out. Can we really blame Saban for all of this? They are contractually obligated to adapt all Sentai properties released. That's why Megaforce felt so rushed and why Super Megaforce will be a Super Megaclusterfuck. I'm a little more forgivin' with Samurai because Saban was tryin' to find their footin' again but there is absolutely no excuse for Megaforce.

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#106: Mar 16th 2014 at 4:26:29 PM

I have a feeling they have some serious budget issues right now. I know we had that with Mystic Force because Bruce Kalish overspent on S.P.D.(and it shows). That would explain the overuse of Stock Footage, some horrid editing, and even them using suits nonexistent in Power Rangers.

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#107: Mar 16th 2014 at 4:33:12 PM

Guys...was Power Rangers better off with Disney? This is a serious question.

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Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#108: Mar 16th 2014 at 4:39:16 PM

I am... unsure. They both have their problems. Disney, imo, did a bit of a better job with making it entertaining. At least after Wild Force. Having music going off as they fight is one of the biggest factors that helps me enjoy a season. I admit Lost Galaxy and Time Force had such good characterization, that this didn't matter.

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#109: Mar 17th 2014 at 9:13:52 AM

Actually I was just about to point that out. Can we really blame Saban for all of this? They are contractually obligated to adapt all Sentai properties released. That's why Megaforce felt so rushed and why Super Megaforce will be a Super Megaclusterfuck. I'm a little more forgivin' with Samurai because Saban was tryin' to find their footin' again but there is absolutely no excuse for Megaforce.

Are they? Coz aren't they skipping Go Busters to go straight to Koryugers?

I have a feeling they have some serious budget issues right now. I know we had that with Mystic Force because Bruce Kalish overspent on S.P.D.(and it shows). That would explain the overuse of Stock Footage, some horrid editing, and even them using suits nonexistent in Power Rangers.

Are there budget issues? Because if there are... why keep the Megaforce / Goseiger costumes? They've had to re-shoot a bunch of fights so far to take place in the Goseiger costumes because they originally took place in the Gokaiger costume. So why if budget is an issue make a decision that makes you use less sentai footage? Have Vekar destroy the Megaforce powers when he shows up (Which would establish him as a superior villain and threat and save money by using more Gokaiger footage).

Honestly, I don't think its budget, or being "rushed" it's straight up laziness. I can (And people on this thread also can) think of dozens of ways to make the plot more interesting without requiring more new footage. It's like they either don't care, of there's some conflict behind the scene on if they should re-do Gokaiger or make a new story.

edited 17th Mar '14 9:16:11 AM by CobraPrime

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#110: Mar 17th 2014 at 10:10:09 AM

right. what makes it odd is the reshoots specifically to use goseiger suits.

And an easy way to rework the pirate theme in woulda been for vekar to not only crush the goseiger uniforms out of existence, but leave the world under siege and force the megaforce rangers to adopt pirate and guerilla tactics to take back control of the planet at first.

Instead they reshot ep 1 and ep 2 fights to occasionally use goseiger suits, and yet edit out Himitsu Sentai Goranger, only to weeks later drag in Dairanger and pre-zyu sentai suits anyhow.

edited 17th Mar '14 10:14:07 AM by midgetsnowman

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#111: Mar 17th 2014 at 11:05:11 AM

Heck, swap out the Red Ranger (Pulling an In Space) to replace him with a Captain Marvelous-esque figure who's a space pirate fighting the empire (Maybe he came to earth because Gosei had the Ranger Keys?), providing the Gokaiger powers. Pretty sure that's even cheaper than keeping the same actor around for 2 seasons (Not like the Red Ranger's been really riveting either). If they want they could even bring back their original Megaforce Red to be Gokai Silver mid-season. You get the benefit of acknowledging the pirate theme, and making the villains feel threatening since they took out the red ranger.

With a bit of dialogue set up the Emperor (Has he even been given a name yet?) as a former servant of Dark Specter from In Space, operating in the fringe of the galaxy, where he fought Gosei during the events of In Space, but was far enough not to be obliterated by the Z Wave. You don't need to explain it to kids in any depth, but suddenly that makes Gosei's being a student of Zordon make sense, it adds depth to the conflict which even the kids will get (Gosei and the Emperor have beef with one another, and this is part of a conflict that has been ongoing and involved many ranger teams). And it's a nice fanservice nods to the fan.

edited 17th Mar '14 11:10:33 AM by CobraPrime

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#112: Mar 21st 2014 at 5:43:19 AM

[up]While this show does cater to older fans a bit you have to understand that it primarily targets children. They probably won't know who Dark Spectre. Hell they probably don't even know who Zordon is. Odd when you consider the reference to Zordon in the first episode.

All of this could've been rectified if they just skipped over Goseiger and went straight to Gokaiger. Nuttin's stoppin' them from skippin' Go-Buster (sort of).

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#113: Mar 21st 2014 at 6:49:57 AM

Still, I find it ironic that the first sentai they're skipping the adaptation of is the one that's loaded with Power Rangers references.

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Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#114: Mar 21st 2014 at 7:27:28 AM

Well, they didn't "skip" it. Adapting is different. Go-Busters is barely going to be adapted, however.

Saban isn't allowed to completely skip any main series due to their contract. They can't skip Goseiger or Gokaiger.

Also, watched a bit more via random You Tube scenes from the official channel, prsamuraicast. Lots of editing errors, even pointed out on Rangerwiki too. That said, I still feel they must've had a lack of money, which would explain why they never got a lot of Japanese symbols edited out. Even the commercials have this issue. There could be internal reasons as well. Cause I doubt they just didn't even make an attempt to fix that up at all.

I did find it funny when they when into Legendary Mystic Force Mode, and of course Gia and Noah are in the opposite gendered costumes. Also, anybody notice that until Jungle Fury, our turqoise(light Blue) Rangers were all female? Well, of the normal Power Rangers. Alien Rangers did it first with male and Cestro, but I forgot about him when I first typed that. That's 5 light blue rangers, huh. Dino Charge might head this way too. The darker/regular Blue were all male instead.

edited 21st Mar '14 7:34:21 AM by Irene

midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#115: Mar 21st 2014 at 8:20:07 AM

at firast I assumed the lack of editing was to be a bonus for sentai fans when we saw cards like Gosei Great..but given how slapsdash it is..dunno.

Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#116: Mar 21st 2014 at 8:24:34 AM

I would love to know the reason for the lack of it. At least Gosei Ground and Gosei Grand sound similar?

I think the more worse ones than that, which I just find a bit of a language bonus is when they have the Japanese Rangers in a shot. Won't lie, this show has probably the worst amount of editing errors ever. I know MMPR didn't do the greatest job ever, since during some of Season 2, it was really Megazord's counterpart that slashed a monster, but it looked decent enough, you know?

Speaking of, I forgot how horrible looking the Dark Rangers were. At least compared to last ones. The putty versions were reasonable considering who became them, heh.

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#117: Mar 22nd 2014 at 3:57:45 PM

I missed the new Power Rangers.

Was it shit?

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#118: Mar 22nd 2014 at 5:21:41 PM

Suprisingly, not at all.

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#119: Mar 22nd 2014 at 5:33:36 PM

Well guess I'll have to wait til Monday to watch it when it gets uploaded to tubeplus >.>

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Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#120: Mar 22nd 2014 at 5:35:36 PM

The episode was actually pretty good. If you meant "Spirit of the Tiger". Truthfully, I've liked a lot more of Super than regular. It helps that Verek is just that funny. The constant snark and manchildness is great. I'd label him a Lovable Coward out of universe.


On another, note, I recently watched the Lothor and his hero team VS the evil Ninja Rangers fight on Ninja Storm. Lothor mostly gets his butt kicked. In the regular Dimension, Cam is easily defeated by Lothor, barely hurting him at all at best. Quite a bit of irony there, switching their effectiveness against each other. I also liked the Ninja Space Striker. I just wished they played music during it, albeit... they can't play the main theme. XD

edited 23rd Mar '14 1:35:20 AM by Irene

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#121: Mar 28th 2014 at 4:22:51 AM

So I got around to watchin' the latest episode.

Gotta say, not bad. Vekar is hilarious as always and he's probably the only savin' grace this show has.

Also; wild mass guessCasey is dead and that was his ghost.wild mass guess

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#122: Mar 28th 2014 at 1:25:14 PM

Having now finished Gokaiger, I'm all the more ticked off they aren't adapting it the same way. [lol] But at the same time, not sure if they could live up to the same standard on this one, given their current state.

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Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#123: Mar 28th 2014 at 3:31:53 PM

My only honest issue beyond the obvious "didn't edit out the card names" was that they made too many musical mistakes. End of Megaforce, Power Rangers Samurai theme plays. Often times no background music plays when they try to win. I'm not expecting a background theme from variations the Legendary Megazord takes, but at least the Megaforce theme.

I do enjoy Samurai a bit more. Although this one has more consistent characterization, since it didn't try to 100% adapt it. Remember when Mike had an episode where he's suddenly rebellious? Completely unrelated to that, I actually know a Mike, Emily(sister's name, although she changed it to Emilee), and Kevin(multiples in fact. They always happen to be far stronger than me. And usually my superior in either age or position at work. Funny that).

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#124: Apr 7th 2014 at 12:44:34 PM

New Episode: Prince Vekar is funny as usual and remains to be the saving grace of the series. Also we now have our Sixth Ranger who apparently is an alien whose planet was taken over/destroyed by the armada. Perhaps he's even a space pirate.

The episodes appear to be getting better but I' gonna maintain a healthy level of scepticism.

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#125: Apr 7th 2014 at 12:48:50 PM

Admitedly I found Gai to be the weak point of Gokaiger, so here's an area where Megaforce can improve. (He's pretty much just an Ascended Fanboy who's given his powers out of nowhere). It'll be interesting to learn where his powers are from.

Also according to what I heard, his zord is actually a new version of Timeforce Q-Rex sent by Timeforce. (As it was in Gokaiger, where it travels back in time the same way the Time Force Megazord did). I am really looking forward to see how they work that in. Also how they work in his gold mode, since in Gokaiger, he gets it from the 3 6th Rangers who died, but in Power Rangers, none of them have died. Lots of potential there.


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