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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#61976: Oct 30th 2019 at 2:21:13 PM

Okay, I've added the message to the following Moments pages. I don't really know what the do about the pages with question marks. I don't know if it's worth adding the warning there or not. I'm leaning towards not.

  • N/A = Don't add to this page
  • Requested = Needs to go through the Edit Locked Pages thread
  • Completed = These are the pages that already have the message
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Awesome Music Completed  Web Animation Completed  Drinking Game N/A  Laconic N/A
Funny Completed  Fridge ?  Fandom Specific N/A  Manga N/A
Heartwarming Completed  Headscratchers ?  Fandom Nickname N/A  Memes N/A
Ho Yay Completed  Trivia ?  Fanfic Recs N/A  Pantheon N/A
Nightmare Fuel Requested  WMG ?  Fanon N/A  Quotes N/A
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Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 30th 2019 at 9:36:10 AM

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Ryno_v Since: Dec, 2017
#61977: Oct 31st 2019 at 5:58:59 AM

SMITE: Team RWBY Gameplay Revealed

the RWBY Smite collaboration thing has game play out.

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#61978: Oct 31st 2019 at 11:11:32 AM

RWBY Volume 7 Clip: Grimm Battle at Mantle.

Edited by Ryno_v on Nov 1st 2019 at 3:19:42 AM

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#61980: Oct 31st 2019 at 11:44:34 AM

I'm not a huge fan of the siren sound. The Vale siren was pure WW2 and felt chilling. This sounds a bit... pathetic. However, given that this is Mantle, which is supposed to be run down and neglected, it might be appropriate for the setting.

That said... the clip didn't seem particularly run-down. There are signs that the buildings may be fairly dirty close-up, but so far it looks a little similar to Vale. Perhaps they're in the 'up-market' end of Mantle.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 31st 2019 at 6:49:00 PM

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TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#61981: Oct 31st 2019 at 3:23:35 PM

Hm... it looks fine, but then, the first fight of each volume always does. I'll hold judgment until we see the other fights in it. Other than that, it honestly kinda looks the same as V6 to me.

I do love, though, that Blake takes out her sword, then needs to take a second to remember that it was broken during the big climatic fight in which she finally killed someone important and personally harrowing to her. Either Blake has started suffering from amnesia, or somebody at RT presumed that we forgot the climax of V6 already.

Also, bull on Oscar's flippy shit in his part of the fight. Dude has not gained those chops in this small an amount of time.

Qrow's still awesome.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Oct 31st 2019 at 8:23:47 AM

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#61982: Oct 31st 2019 at 3:29:38 PM

[up] That or RT thinks the Audience forgot and decided to remind them.

EDIT: Didn't notice the thing. But proof of that theory is that they included the entire stinger of V4 into V5 with literally no changes just because of this excuse.

Edited by Psyga315 on Oct 31st 2019 at 3:30:32 AM

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#61983: Oct 31st 2019 at 3:34:31 PM

At least there it was the stinger. This time they think we forgot the actual climax of their last season. They think people paid that little attention to the thing they built up to all season last season.

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#61984: Oct 31st 2019 at 3:42:08 PM

[up] I'd agree, but this is a post-MCU industry. People were actually disappointed to find there's no stinger in the largest grossing Marvel movie of all time, so much that they had to use a clip of the next movie in the line up just to add one.

And considering all the Volumes had Stingers, even the ones that got retconned (i.e. the Raven-centric ones), this is a conundrum.

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#61985: Oct 31st 2019 at 3:48:33 PM

I'm of the opinion that bending the knee in these cases only encourages the viewership to be lazier and stupider, but then, I don't work in the industry yet.

Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#61986: Oct 31st 2019 at 3:58:26 PM

Here's a thought; Blake reacted with her muscle memory out of instinct before remembering her sword is broken.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#61987: Oct 31st 2019 at 4:01:41 PM

Yeah, it’s by no means unreasonable for her to not remember right away, and instinctively go for her weapon. But out of series, that is definitely for people who forget her weapon was broken. Which considering it’s been like a year, is not unreasonable.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#61988: Oct 31st 2019 at 4:11:22 PM

[up][up] [up]That.

Also, bull on Oscar's flippy shit in his part of the fight. Dude has not gained those chops in this small an amount of time.

He spent Volume 5 training with the team, was shown having superior combat performance fighting Lionheart, and seems to be merging with Ozpin in Volume 6 - which we were already told would happen. I think that's what his costume change and Ozpin's conspicuous absence were supposed to represent.

Besides his flippy sh-t wasn't as intense as anything the others were doing. We can tell from this clip that even Jaune's improved to a level where he can pick off mook Grimm in a stylish, timely manner.

Edited by Soble on Oct 31st 2019 at 4:16:39 AM

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#61989: Oct 31st 2019 at 5:09:54 PM

Yeah I dont mind Blake going into a "go shit" it happen all the time, granted is blake and easy to mock(which I feel is unfair, Weiss is better target pratice now).

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#61990: Oct 31st 2019 at 6:27:14 PM

I do love, though, that Blake takes out her sword, then needs to take a second to remember that it was broken during the big climatic fight in which she finally killed someone important and personally harrowing to her.

It looks like a reflexive move interrupted by a reality check to me. For someone intensively trained to fight, I've got no trouble with her instinctively reaching for her sword before her brain kicks in and she switches to gun-mode.

And, for those fans who don't bother following the creators or listening to interviews (and there are plenty), confirming the sword is still broken is one way of establishing that Episode 1 is taking place straight after the end of V6 — it'll doubtless be one of several things in the episode that will help confirm how little time has passed.

Also, bull on Oscar's flippy shit in his part of the fight. Dude has not gained those chops in this small an amount of time.

Given what the show has indicated (sometimes by sledgehammer) about Oscar's development speed, I don't think there's anything surprising or bullshit about that.

Volume 4 established without clarification that Oscar is not normal. Volume 5 clearly established that Oscar was breaking the in-universe concept of 'normal' development speed. Ozpin warned it would happen. Jaune commented that it was happening. Oscar went from nothing to being on par with a fully-trained Huntsman — and, while Leo was no Hazel, Oscar still achieved that in a single month). Volume 6 had Oscar leap on the back of a manticore and ride it until shaken off — and, while the fandom does debate how much of that fight was Ozpin or Oscar, it's not because people were arguing that Oscar couldn't leap onto the back of a manticore.

Even without the manticore taken into account, V5 alone should mean there's nothing surprising about Oscar's moves in the V7 trailer. Especially given that he's then completely overshadowed by Team RWBY, making it look like he's got more work to do compared to them.

EDIT: Didn't notice the thing. But proof of that theory is that they included the entire stinger of V4 into V5 with literally no changes just because of this excuse.

Inserting the stinger into V5's first episode had nothing to do with thinking people had forgotten it. While there was an element of them not knowing how many fans really bother with the stingers ('not watching' isn't the same as 'forgetting') it was primarily because they were messing with the timelines between the RNJR and Blake storylines so they wanted to make it clear to the audience where in the RNJR timeline Qrow actually made contact with Oscar.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 31st 2019 at 1:45:44 PM

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TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#61991: Oct 31st 2019 at 6:42:32 PM

Given what the show has indicated (sometimes by sledgehammer) about Oscar's development speed, I don't think there's anything surprising or weird about that.

Yeah, I might just dislike the entirety of Oscar's character and the way he's handled and given passes in the story. It might also have bled onto my general opinion of him and affected my view of his action scene. I won't deny that.

It looks like a reflexive move interrupted by a reality check to me. For someone intensively trained to fight, I've got no trouble with her instinctively reaching for her sword before her brain kicks in and she switches to gun-mode.

It's still narratively unnecessary, though. It smacks of RT not trusting it's viewership to remember the climax of the last volume, and my opinion of that has already been stated in my last post.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#61992: Oct 31st 2019 at 6:49:33 PM

Well, I've already given you two reasons for why it might have narrative purpose — characterisation and contributing to an atmosphere that little time has passed.

And it is consistent characterisation for Blake to instinctively go for her sword option first when things get tense.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 31st 2019 at 1:52:20 PM

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#61993: Oct 31st 2019 at 7:16:42 PM

Inserting the stinger into V5's first episode had nothing to do with thinking people had forgotten it. While there was an element of them not knowing how many fans really bother with the stingers ('not watching' isn't the same as 'forgetting') it was primarily because they were messing with the timelines between the RNJR and Blake storylines so they wanted to make it clear to the audience where in the RNJR timeline Qrow actually made contact with Oscar.

Then why repeat the entire scene like really bad Naruto filler?

Just have Oscar enter the bar then cut

Edited by Psyga315 on Oct 31st 2019 at 7:20:39 AM

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#61994: Oct 31st 2019 at 10:44:09 PM

I don't think Blake forgot, exactly, just that she didn't make the connection between "blade is gone" and "can't use blade." It's not really that uncommon, especially when something is as second-nature as her blade would have to be by now.

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Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#61995: Oct 31st 2019 at 11:30:13 PM

A good comparison would be Ruby reaching for Crescent Rose under the arena when confronting Mercury. Yes they knew their weapon isn't there, but they defaulted to their instincts and training

Honestly this just sounds like wanting to find anything to complain about for the sake of complaining, or to use it to paint RT in a negative light.

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#61996: Nov 1st 2019 at 12:31:12 AM

While I definitely feel RWBY deserves a lot of flak, the sword thing isn't one of them. I think it's a smart decision to include. The stated above character reason is valid, as it would be a reflex move, especially given how little time has passed. Second, if we go from the meta logic, there will be some who forget. This is inevitable. Not everybody will, but some might, so it helps to have a reminder. It's nothing done in an insulting way and its organic to the story.

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#61997: Nov 1st 2019 at 3:57:18 AM

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Edited by Soble on Nov 1st 2019 at 3:57:38 AM

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#61998: Nov 1st 2019 at 5:54:08 AM

I don't really get the issues with Oscar. We know he killed Creeps on his own before he merged with Ozma, and he was handling the Manticore's on the Argus Limited without using Ozma. Even his whacking of Leo during Haven was one of the few good parts of the Battle of Haven, since it highlighted that while his fighting style was unrefined, he still had some skill and his blitz like attacks could keep the opponent on guard. The kid is definitely not normal, even before he got Ozpin.

He was probably a prodigy before Ozma merged with him. Cause remember, one of the things noted about Ozma's soul merging is that he fuses with a "Like minded soul". And so far every one of his incarnations explored for more than two seconds has been seen to be a prodigy or naturally better than others in some way.

  • He was originally the only one able to make it to Salem's tower.
  • The false god easily killed a Beowulf despite no indication of him being anything more than a simple farmhand.
  • The settler was ready to jump into the fight himself and assumedly built The Long Memory on his own.
  • The King of Vale was a juggernaut during the Great War. And while it's highly likely he was wielding the Sword of Destruction and the Crown of Choice during the Vacuo Campaign, he still was strong enough to earn the title of the Warrior King.
  • Ozpin was described as a child prodigy and worked his way up to headmaster on his own.
All of Ozma's incarnations are effectively the top 1 percent of the 1 percent. So Oscar being this much a natural isn't that surprising.

Yeah, I might just dislike the entirety of Oscar's character and the way he's handled and given passes in the story. It might also have bled onto my general opinion of him and affected my view of his action scene. I won't deny that.
I can only understand that if the point you're making is that Oscar at this point isn't a character but instead is a Plot Device. I can't argue that at this point Oscar has little Character Development of his own and feels more like just an extension of Ozma. It's why I was honestly happy that Ozma sealed himself away during Volume 6, since it felt like the opportunity to flesh Oscar out, only to then have his Character Development done offscreen! I really hope Volume 7 keeps Ozma dormant so we can get some development for Oscar himself, cause the kid needs it. He's got a nice design, a nice concept behind him honestly making him reminiscent of Yugi or Aang, and a lot of untapped potential. So hopefully he doesn't just stay an extension of Ozma and grows into a character of his own.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Nov 2nd 2019 at 6:54:09 AM

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#61999: Nov 1st 2019 at 7:29:43 AM

So remember the latest issue of the DC RWBY comic? Apparently, there's allegations they stole a fan-design for a weapon in it.

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#62000: Nov 1st 2019 at 7:33:20 AM

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