Unified Warhammer Fantasy thread

Now, when the cathay tabletop state come up, I wont be surprise if people just translate that into warhammer fantasy, really

This could be the related to our differing perspectives, as I am not really a gamer. I am primarily a collector of models and consumer of lore, the main reason I played the game was to give me an excuse to spend all my money on toy soldiers.

While I am not entirely sure on the timeline, I am 80% sure that the setting of Old World is slightly before the Great War Against Chaos, e.i. one of the more important events in the history of the Old World. Hence the focus on Kislev

Edited by SebastianGray on Sep 20th 2021 at 8:38:44 PM

Yeah, on a mechanical level AOS has made leaps and bounds since the initial release, which I remain convinced was a first draft that got rushed out without meaningful playtesting or even much of an editing pass, and on an aesthetic level they even managed to find a Stormcast aesthetic for the second wave that didn't look like Sigmar had stolen the Emperor of Mankind's notes and carefully discarded the ones that just read "genocide genocide genocide genocide genocide genocide genocide."

I still don't play it, but that's largely because I already play 40K, and the shift to round bases and skirmishing units make them somewhat redundant.

Yeah, the few bits of material released so far very strongly imply that that's the case — or, more specifically, that the setting will start maybe a century before that. I think the map of Bretonnia is the most important in this context. It cites Bretonnia's kind as Luen Orcslayer (king a century or so before the Great War), has a bunch of orc symbols around northern Bretonnia (Luen got his name from waging a major campaign against orc invaders, I think), and has a wood elf symbol in the Forest of Arden (at the time Luen was kind, the wood elves were there to kill one of Morghur's incarnations). Plus, Kislev is also depicted as very large (it explicitly lost most of its land and power after the Great War, and it would make sense for it to have originally controlled land to the east because that's where the Gospodars came from).

If I had to guess, I figure that (although not necessarily from day one) the game will include focuses on Bretonnia versus orcs, wood elves versus beastmen, the Empire's civil war, and eventually the order factions versus Chaos.

To be fair the same happen to primaris marine as well: the idea at first was rejected and many people hate it, not helped that some lore stuff feel clunky(the whole "we were here the whole time!") but now people have warm to them and dont feel put of place anymore.

In the case of Ao S the problem is that they throw names and stuff without bother to answer to questions: are the incarnate really the same as end times(answer: yes and no), what are the realms, no big the are and that stuff, for many it feel they were just jump right into 8 infinite realms with maps without nothing to anchor them, the result was really bad.

In short, Ao S as idea isnt bad but they really make the worst impresion posible.

Andy Hall talks about Miao Ying and her personality.

Hey, is it just me, or were the rules for units taken down on GW?

I could be misremembering, but I think I remember something similar happening with 2nd Edition. They could be updating them.

If GW takes too long with churning out any Cathay-related minis, then Warlords Atlantic can offer an alternative with Ancient Chinese military-figures. I think these are worth getting also if GW ends up making just a few over-priced kits at a future date. Either way, I'd use these to for Cathay troops, as well as converting-fodder for Hobgoblins.

Edited by Mara999 on Sep 28th 2021 at 8:34:00 PM

To celebrate its new edition, this year's chance to write for Black Library is Age of Sigmar only.

Edited by SebastianGray on Sep 29th 2021 at 4:46:41 PM

Today on Warhammer Community: Cyborg Rat Ogre Star Player, Kreek ‘The Verminator’ Rustgouger◊.

Another great Blood Bowl Star Player model.

That's one of the cooler Rat Ogres I've seen in a while, that isn't a Stormfiend or something equally huge.

Warhammer: Old World: The Boarder Princes

With all the buzz surrounding the long-awaited reveal of Grand Cathay, our minds are turned once again to the goings-on in Warhammer: The Old World. Since revealing the chivalrous lands of Bretonnia and the frozen north of Kislev, the team has been hard at work on one of the lesser-known areas of the setting. Today, Andy Hoare from the Warhammer Studio is here to tell us all about the ever-changing Border Princes.

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Andy: Work continues on the Warhammer: The Old World project. While the fruits of our labour must remain locked behind sturdy oaken doors, we nonetheless wanted to show off our ongoing work on what is, in many ways, the most important part of the project – the setting◊.

Over the last few months, our artists and writers have been thinking hard about an area of the Warhammer world that’s been around since at least the 3rd edition of the game. This region, however, has seen little development over the years – the Border Princes◊.

The Border Princes is a rugged, largely arid region occupying a crossroads between the various nations and factions of the Warhammer world. It’s an area well-used to the tread of invading armies passing through in all directions. As such, it’s claimed by no one nation.

Instead, it’s a patchwork of petty kingdoms. Each is ruled over for a brief period by a leader charismatic or despotic enough to claim a temporary throne before being knocked off it within a year or two by the next rival. Exiled nobles and fallen warlords come to the Border Princes from far and wide to set themselves up as rulers, gathering any waifs and strays that will flock to their tattered banners.

East Detail◊

This area is fascinating, but it’s also a challenge when it comes to expanding the setting. It was originally created to provide a ‘sandbox’ in which players could set their own campaigns and stories, so we didn’t want to over-describe the area. Instead, we gave hobbyists enough information to run with it and make it their own.

West Detail◊

To capture this area of shifting power and fate, we’ve created a snapshot of the region as it might appear for a very brief moment in time. The places are largely permanent, but the people occupying them are very far from it.

The crests shown on this new map are those of outcast nobles from all over the Old World, but who can say how long they’ll hold onto power before being cast down by a jealous rival?

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Thanks, Andy! Seeing the Border Princes in this level of detail is truly a first for Warhammer fans. We can’t wait for a tour around more of Warhammer: The Old World – in the meantime, we’ll be pouring over that beautiful map for details. If you’re an Old World megafan, don’t forget you can get the latest news fresh from the presses by signing up for the newsletter – there’s no better way to see the next big announcements.

I do love the maps.

Edited by SebastianGray on Oct 7th 2021 at 5:20:41 PM

Yes, the maps are very nice.

The Border Princes! Not what I was expecting. Still, it makes some sense — it's a good way of justifying random anyone-against-anyone battles or campaigns.

Also, looking at the map, it seems that the game will be set before Karak Eight Peaks' fall.

It's nice that they're giving them their own kind of makeup too rather than just "Hey here's shittier Empire."

It also looks like there is a Tomb Kings presence in the Dragonback Mountains around where Ekrund should be.

Yeah, I remember that when I was first getting into the hobby the Border Princes were presented as the ideal setting for a free-for-all map campaign because you could get away with almost anything happening (although I imagine the Lizardmen would have taken a little more work to justify).

Well, the Southland jungles are a hop and skip away, and Slann can teleport, so not that much work. I seem to remember the campaign rules in the back of the 6th edition rulebook used the Borderlands as the default setting (and being miffed the rules were so barebones and unbalanced).

I see Orc symbols, but no Ogre kingdom's maws. Too far in the West, maybe?

The Old World stuff reminds me of reading my oldest White Dwarf issues. As nice as the maps and small tidbits of lore are, there are a few things I hope to start seeing more of fairly soon. Chief among those, I'd like to finally see some new minis from the pre-AOS Warhammer universe, especially for elements previously without depiction. I'd also like to see some hobby articles for converting units with both older and newer kits, whatever AOS-related stuff can be repurposed for the Old World.

Today on Warhammer Community:

1) The AoS special edition model for Warhammer Day (30th October) this year is a Vampire Lord Anasta Malkorion◊.

2) The Khorne Blood Bowl team's Big Guy, the Bloodspawn◊.

A female Necrarch? That's pretty cool! She could be used for a character similar to Vampire: The Masquerade Nosferatu who used to be beautiful and vain as mortals. She's not conventionally attractive anymore, but she carries herself like a queen.

The Bloodspawn would make for a cool mutated orc, if given pointy ears.

Today on Warhammer Community: A new Warcray model, the Broodmaster◊.

Appropriately, I watched episode 18 of the first season of Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba this morning with the fight against this guy.

I hope this means that there might be an entire spider-worshiping Chaos cult on its way. I really like that model and would like to use it also for a mutated Drow, favoured by the Spider Queen.

It is likely to be an entire cult of Chaos-spider worshipers. That's one of things I have always liked about Warcry, each of the Cultist Warbands worships Chaos in their own way.