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Deadlock Clock: Oct 14th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
kundoo from the land of Mordor where the shadows lie Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
#1: Aug 2nd 2012 at 4:56:46 PM

This trope confuses me. Clearly this is something that arises when the work is set in what supposed to be our universe where the makers of this work are also supposed to live and have their impact on it. But what exactly is this trope? When the creators don’t exist within their work? When they do? Laconic suggests former, but lots of examples are latter (and they are not said to be sub/in/ aversions), description seems not to take sides and just depicts a phenomenon.

I found these variations within examples:

  • 1. The adaptation is set in the later period than the original, the original work and all previous adaptations seem to never exist in this universe.
  • 2. Actor A plays Character B in the Work X which takes place in what is supposed to be our universe. B’s resemblance to A is not referenced.
  • 3. Actor A also plays Character C in the Work Y. The Work Y doesn’t exist in Work X.
  • 4. Work X does make a reference to Work Y. Character B’s resemblance to Character C is never mentioned.
  • 5. Someone in Work X notice that Character B looks like Character Y from the Work Y.
  • 6. Actor A exists in Work X. As bonus points he or she can even make a cameo As Himself in addition to playing Character B.

2 and 3 are pretty much what Laconic says, but they are meaningless unless nonexistence of Actor A or Work Y is crucial to something happening within Work X. 4 seems to be the most referenced on the wiki.

I suggest to make them into internal subtropes to make it all more clear.

edited 2nd Aug '12 4:58:06 PM by kundoo

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spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#2: Aug 2nd 2012 at 5:56:51 PM

The word "paradox" is in the title. it's suppose to be that confusing.

kundoo from the land of Mordor where the shadows lie Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
#3: Aug 2nd 2012 at 6:57:55 PM

Yeah. That's why I think the trope should be not about paradox itself, but rather about how different works deal whith it.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#4: Aug 3rd 2012 at 1:19:39 AM

Would you be able to write up definitions that hold up on their own for those internal subtropes? What you wrote in the OP was mostly just confusing, as they all drew on each other.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#5: Oct 11th 2012 at 6:00:31 AM

Clocking.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#6: Oct 22nd 2012 at 1:11:12 AM

Locking.

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