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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#1: Jul 23rd 2012 at 6:02:31 PM

Not sure about whether to bring this to the repair shop, so I'll just take it here. I did see a recent topic brought up in the page's discussion about the possibility of introducing a new categorynote , or even increasing the wick threshold of the existing categories to reduce page crowding. Maybe both.

Personally, I could go with perhaps increasing the threshold from 1000-2000-4000 to 1500-3000-6000. If there is to be a new category, which I could go either way in this regard, I could go up to 9000 for huge franchises such as Star Wars.

So any thoughts here?

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tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Jul 23rd 2012 at 8:51:31 PM

If there is to be a new category, which I could go either way in this regard, I could go up to 9000 for huge franchises such as Star Wars.
Would the inevitable Over Nine Thousand references be a plus or a minus?

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#4: Jul 24th 2012 at 6:30:49 AM

I'd much rather avoid memetic references, but feel 9000 would be a good threshold for a possible fourth category if there is to be one (but yes, no "Over Nine Thousand" for that label).

edited 24th Jul '12 6:35:51 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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#5: Jul 24th 2012 at 6:52:40 AM

You do realize that there's no way to avoid the Over Nine Thousand meme if you reference it so directly like that, right? It's Schmuck Bait incarnate.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#6: Jul 24th 2012 at 9:24:36 AM

Yeah... given the sequencenote  the number made sense to me, but you may be right on this point. 10000 then? Just gotta have a name for a new category (if there is going to be one)... "Overcharged" between Overloaded and Saturated?

edited 24th Jul '12 9:26:10 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#8: Jul 24th 2012 at 10:54:06 PM

[up] Actually, come to think it would. I did count seven works qualifying for that though. Then again, it seems all too apparent that 4000 is just too small a number to call something "saturated", especially if non-trope wicks are in the mix.

edited 24th Jul '12 10:57:03 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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#9: Jul 24th 2012 at 10:57:24 PM

12000 is nice because it continues the pattern of doubling each time it goes up.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#10: Jul 26th 2012 at 9:53:06 PM

Created a sandbox based upon the proposal. Look good?

edited 26th Jul '12 9:54:39 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#11: Jul 26th 2012 at 11:54:11 PM

Overcharged in the middle there seems kind of weird to me. I wouldn't be able to guess that it comes between "overloaded" and "saturated" without looking at the page. Maybe add a new category to the end instead? So it would be something like,
Overdosed, Overloaded, Saturated, Pure Unrefined Trope

EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
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#13: Aug 2nd 2012 at 1:19:11 AM

What would it look like if we kept the current intervals but added a new category, so it went 1000-2000-4000-8000?

(This is not to say I oppose either of the current options, but I'm just throwing it out there.)

edited 2nd Aug '12 1:20:22 AM by MorganWick

EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#14: Aug 2nd 2012 at 3:33:42 AM

No problem! Added!

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#15: Aug 4th 2012 at 2:01:04 PM

Instead of Overcharged, how about call that category Smothered?

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#16: Aug 7th 2012 at 9:37:41 AM

"Overcharged" is just a working title, so Smothered may also be a good suggestion.

EDIT: By the looks of it, keeping the page as is is out of the question.

edited 7th Aug '12 12:31:59 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#17: Aug 9th 2012 at 9:07:22 AM

So, anybody to determine how much longer we can go (well, perhaps to give Sandbox #3 a chance for more votes)?

edited 9th Aug '12 9:08:35 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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TompaDompa from Sweden Since: Jan, 2012
#18: Aug 9th 2012 at 2:05:16 PM

I'd say when Sandbox #3 has 10-12 votes, if it is clear which alternative wins by then. If not, I don't know. Maybe make a new crowner in a new thread to decide which one of those two is the most fitting?

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#19: Aug 10th 2012 at 9:33:57 PM

So anybody with an idea for a new category name (eg Overcharged, Smothered, etc.)

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TompaDompa from Sweden Since: Jan, 2012
#20: Aug 14th 2012 at 5:01:36 AM

I say go with Smothered. And I think it's fairly apparent that Sandbox #1 is the most popular suggestion, so we could probably go ahead and implement it.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#21: Aug 14th 2012 at 8:43:21 PM

[up] Sandbox #3 doesn't even have 10 votes yet. It's too soon to call it.

EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#22: Aug 15th 2012 at 9:00:49 AM

[up] Now it does. Shall we bring this to a close?

edited 15th Aug '12 6:42:08 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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TompaDompa from Sweden Since: Jan, 2012
#23: Aug 16th 2012 at 3:33:06 PM

Yes. #1 has a ratio of 8.00 : 1; #3 has a ratio of 1.50 : 1. That's conclusive, wouldn't you say?

edited 16th Aug '12 3:33:53 PM by TompaDompa

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#24: Aug 16th 2012 at 10:10:08 PM

Yeah. I wonder why this hasn't been called yet. Can I go ahead with the changes?

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TompaDompa from Sweden Since: Jan, 2012
#25: Aug 17th 2012 at 2:25:42 AM

Yes. At least, I don't mind.

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