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Speaking of which, how old is Franklin currently? He's still pre-teenish but he's not ubber kid like anymore.

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

Who the fuck knows any more? Logically, he should probably be around 11 or 12. But I think he's supposed to be 9 or 10 right now. But his age has fluctuated to a ridiculous degree over the years. To the point where there's a very serious theory that Franklin Richards is actually responsible for the sliding timeline Marvel has, manipulating it to always stay at an age where he feels safe.

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I don't know how she is in the actual FF books, but last time I saw anything with her she accidentally brought a dragon to her house, endangering her and her brother as well as X-23. I guess she is a bit less infallible outside her own book.

Heh, since I only read the current stories and some of the Bronze Age, Franklin age seems perfectly natural to me. Most of what I follow*

does seems to have aged 6-10 years since then, including Franklin.

edited 22nd Jul '12 5:18:36 AM by Heatth

So, here◊ is the new deaf superhero Marvel's been promising. I must say I dig his costume, but his dialogue is the Silver Agiest thing since... the Silver Age, with lots of random words being bolded for emphasis. But hey, at least it's not the Rawhide Kid. Here's hoping they don't use this guy as Crisis Crossover fodder.

edited 22nd Jul '12 7:57:24 PM by HamburgerTime

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

So when's the Daredevil teamup?

Is that real? It doesn't look real.

Do I even want to know who the Rawhide Kid is supposed to be?

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.

Gay cowboy. The mini that revealed that he was gay was seen by many as being downright insulting to gay men, since he acted like a stereotype. A lot of people were offended.

He was actually one of Marvel's classic Western characters, along with the likes of the Two-Gun Kid and the others. But then they brought him back for that offensive mini revealing him as being gay.

edited 23rd Jul '12 6:52:50 PM by Tiamatty

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Well, since you asked, I'm going to tell you anyway. The Rawhide Kid was an existing character, a cowboy hero created during the period in The '50s when superheroes fell out of vogue. He was mostly forgotten about for a good long while... until 2003, when Marvel selected him as a character that they would revamp to appeal to gay readers. The result? Pretty much every negative gay stereotype ever thought up, and even probably a few that haven't been, rolled up into one character. As the cherry on the crap sundae, the series was released under the adults-only MAX imprint, despite containing no explicit content apart from the lead character being gay.

EDIT: Ninja.

edited 23rd Jul '12 6:59:56 PM by HamburgerTime

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

Rawhide Kid doesn't sound as bad to me now that I know there was a guy named Tar Baby.

He was literally made of tar. And I actually didn't know that term was offensive until now. Huh.

And speaking off offensive things, yes, Marvel (except I think it was still Timely then) actually had a character named, I kid you not, Admiral Nippo. That'd just be begging for a retcon if he weren't a oneshot character everyone's forgotten about. Ah, the Golden Age...

edited 23rd Jul '12 8:47:59 PM by HamburgerTime

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

Are these comics even canon? This predated Marvel itself, didn't it? I know Marvel is using some of the characters (obviously), but I was under the impression the stories themselves don't count unless confirmed in a proper post-Marvel story.

If Conan that Barbarian is still cannon....

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

Say, has anyone else been noticing that Axel Alonso seems to be tacitly undoing, or at least allowing writers under him to tacitly undo, many of Joe Quesada's more controversial creative decisions? I mean, think about it. You've got "Avengers: The Children's Crusade (undoes Avengers Disassembled), Spider Island (undoes the Spider-Man/Carlie Cooper Strangled by the Red String, the spell that says Peter can never reveal his identity, and MJ being a Peter/Carlie 'shipper), Bendis leaving Avengers (undoes... Bendis being on Avengers), and just today, AvX #9 undoes the Storm/Black Panther Strangled by the Red String with overall foreshadowing within the storyline indicating that the Decimation of mutants and the Cyclops/White Queen Strangled by the Red String may be next to go.

I'm not complaining, obviously, but I do wonder how Quesada feels about all this, given that he's both still at Marvel and at least nominally outranking Alonso. If he's even noticed, that is; his new position is apparently more focused on adaptations and, as mentioned, all the undoing is being done rather subtly.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

I have been waiting for years for the horrid Emma Frost/Cyclops to be undone. I pray that he keeps doing this.

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

Well, AvX #9 features Emma (or at least the piece of the Phoenix within her) crossing the Moral Event Horizon and disgusting Scott, as well as them coming to blows in AvX #11, so... I'm still not convinced she'll be the Final Boss, though.

edited 1st Aug '12 1:15:21 PM by HamburgerTime

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

I like Scott/Emma. I find it far more interesting than Scott/Jean, and I think Emma suits him much better. I'd be a little disappointed if they broke up.

On the other hand, if they do break up, and with Storm newly single, Scott could always hook up with her for a little while. They just seem like they'd be an interesting match. But I do still prefer him with Emma.

Just as long as he never, ever gets back together with Jean. If Jean comes back, she should stay as far away from all the men who've loved her as possible. Scott, Logan, Warren, Xavier . . . all of them.

Anyway, if Alonso is trying to reverse Quesada's decisions, then I'm fine with that. I don't hold the same animosity for a lot of those things that a lot of people do, but Quesada's time in charge did have some problems.

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Agree. Maybe because I am a relatively new reader, but I don't see why people hate Emma so much. Also, I do not see the Strangled by the Red String thing. They have going out by years and the thing did clearly started mostly sexual before being really a romance. And Scott never stopped loving Jean for a second, even after she died. What else people want? Is scott really not allowed to be in a relationship with anyone who is not Jean anymore?

The same issue shows Emma herself is terrible bothered by that. If this is going to be the reason to their break up, it will be considerably hypocritical*

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I actually got the feeling they are separating as well (which I find sad), but not for this reason. I think it is more related to Scott failing to notice her plead for help.

Oh, as for Alonso undoing Quesada. I am waiting for the time people can start smoking again*

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edited 2nd Aug '12 5:12:11 PM by Heatth

I haven't noticed if anyone still smokes. Wolverine actually quit smoking a while ago. Nick Fury and Gambit are about the only ones who might still be smoking, and I honestly just don't remember if they do.

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Didn't Wolverine quit smoking precisely because of Quesada mandate? Now people are allowed to make him star smoking again. It doesn't make much sense for him to stop, since it don't harm him anyway.

I think Wolverine quit before Quesada. Seems to me it was in the mid- to late-'90s.

Edit: Eh, looks like I was wrong. 2001, apparently, and because Quesada brought in an overall smoking ban.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few characters start smoking again - Nick Fury, Gambit, Wolverine, the Thing, guys who were sorta known for smoking - but I'm also fine with smoking being kept to a minimum. It is a pretty disgusting habit, after all.

I'd much rather see people smoking weed.

edited 2nd Aug '12 6:58:26 PM by Tiamatty

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Smoking weed would make them less combat-ready, it would be unwise.

That's what downtime is for.

Anyway, I'd like to see at least a couple of younger heroes - teens to early 20s - smoking the occasional joint. Let's be honest here, Rockslide is exactly the kind to get stoned.

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I am opposite to the idea of having characters not smoking "just because". Sure, I don't support the opposite either, having characters smoking just for the hell of it, because it is "cool". But I find it wrong to stop a character to from smoking if this would be something befit to the character itself. There are a myriad of reasons people smoke and, as such, a character should be able to smoke for the same reason.

In short, I do not like the idea of purposely limiting what a writer can do with their characters. And, hey, alcohol is also a very dangerous drug, if not more so. Yet, we don't see it being restricted in the comic books pages.

Wait, we were talking about weed? 'Cause I was not talking about weed. Well not that my stance would change at all, but it is just not what I thought we were discussing.

Rockslide? I guess I can see him as a "stoned"(heh), but the stereotype seems more fit to surfer dudes such as Loa to me.

edited 2nd Aug '12 7:28:18 PM by Heatth

Yeah, no. Surfers smoke weed, too, but really, it's people who like to be stupid who smoke it. That's not to say stupid people smoke it (though a lot do). A lot of very intelligent people smoke it just so they can be stupid for a little while.

Rockslide really strikes me as the type of guy who would love getting high.

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