Arcade Gamer Fubuki (P5-only)

... Tch, I guess we can keep and clean the work, then... whatever.

Casper, if you really think that Amazon.com sells child pornography, call the FBI. Until then, stop engaging in libel.

edited 30th May '12 4:06:13 PM by Willbyr

^^I never said that. I'm trying to stop that rules lawyering stuff that happens every time stuff like this comes up. "of kids, for kids" doesn't excuse pedoshit, and I made that point. Don't twist my words.

But it looks like it gets a pass, so whatever.

edited 30th May '12 4:06:49 PM by CaspersWish

Back, with booze at the ready. Since it's so short, might as well watch all four eps. Be kinda pointless to just skip one.

Update: Strike all that. If the first ep. is any indicator, it's actually pretty tame. It's a mildly ecchi shonen, with a large side of "WTF, Japan?". Clean, and the page should probably be OK, though at request, I will finish the series and give a full report.

edited 30th May '12 4:43:18 PM by tdgoodrich1

Casper, you are attempting to compare something that is highly illegal in pretty much every country with a functioning government and harms real children with moving drawings of fictitious characters voiced by adults that can legally be purchased through mainstream US retailers. I suggest that it is a poor analogy at best.

Sexualizing children is wrong, harmful and immoral, and yet people are able to sell media that does just that. Nothing you said invalidates that. This media can be used to groom children for sex. Just because it entertains some people and it's legal doesn't make it any better than some of the worst stuff out there.

And once again, your reading comprehension fails you; I said what I did to render your "It's of kids for kids" point invalid, and it worked. You can attack the analogy all you want, but all that will do is highlight the faults in your position.

I'm perfectly willing to drop this, however. It looks like you're going to get to keep the page. Maybe I just have a lower tolerance for sexualizing kids than you.

edited 30th May '12 4:50:46 PM by CaspersWish

Actual child porn is still something a lot different from something fictitious like animation.

And all this is is panty shots anyway. It's barely offensive in the sexulization department.

And I think getting rid of Anime and Manga would get rid of a lot of people.

And Eiken was way worse than Arcade Game Fubuki.

^^ Generalization much?

The panty shots seem far more comedic than anything else. I wouldn't call them sexual in nature.

Yes, SpiritedAway is DEFINITELY on the same level as Mai-Chan's Daily Life and should be purged, lest we look like we condone anything from Japan.

Everything is capable of of having smut, not just Anime and Manga. While I have no issue getting rid of offensive pornographic stuff, I would be furious if they decided to get rid of everything Anime related.

On the subject, this looks stupid. Even if there is nothing too offensive about this, I wonder why Sega and Namco chose to endorse this.

"Actual child porn is still something a lot different from something fictitious like animation."

The latter justifies, romanticises, emulates, and is a substitute for the former. In fact, the latter facilitates the former by providing a tool for grooming children for sex. There is no real reason to tolerate it.

"And all this is is panty shots anyway. It's barely offensive in the sexulization department."

You're literally saying that it's okay to sexualize children ''just a little'. What happened to "Zero Pedo Tolerance"? This is dusgusting, and shameful.

"And I think getting rid of Anime and Manga would get rid of a lot of people."

Yes, a lot of creepy people. I don't want to see all anime and manga go, though. I love so much of it.

"And Eiken was way worse than Arcade Game Fubuki"

That does nothing to argue against cutting it.

"Everything is capable of of having smut, not just Anime and Manga."

Yes, but only manga and anime have subgenres dedicated to simulating child pornography.

edited 30th May '12 5:11:06 PM by CaspersWish

No, we will not cut the entirety of the Anime & Manga-related material on this. Why would you suggest such an extremely stupid idea like this?

You keep saying "grooming children for sex" but you haven't yet said what that actually is, and what the point of doing so would be.

edited 30th May '12 5:12:06 PM by BadWolf21

I said "barely offensive", not "not at all offensive". And as was said, it could be its failed attempt at being funny rather than a failed attempt at turning someone on. It is aimed at young teenage boys.

And how the hell could you use material like this to "groom children for sex", whatever that means? That sounds like it'd be a really dumb idea.

I think Casper's referring to the tactic of real life molesters of exposing kids to porn.

edited 30th May '12 5:14:14 PM by TwoGunAngel

Then I ask is this porn?

All except tdgoodrich 1 he is reviewing this I believe.

edited 30th May '12 5:18:29 PM by Shadis

I think everyone except the P5 need to shut up. Groupie and Casper are hellbent on wanting this cut, and you can't make them think otherwise. And I still stand by my statement that everything is capable of porn, NOT JUST ANIME AND MANGA!

Hey, you know what? Block all non-P5 members from this this thread and let the P5 decide what to do with this.

@Shadis: That's a resounding "No."

"You keep saying "grooming children for sex" but you haven't yet said what that actually is, and what the point of doing so would be." And "And how the hell could you use material like this to "groom children for sex", whatever that means? That sounds like it'd be a really dumb idea."

If you don't know what that means, then you shouldn't be hanging around this subforum contesting the removal of pedoshit. It's one of the prime reasons why works like these are seen as horrible.

See, people use the cartoony images of children in sexual situations in order to make children think that behaving in dangerous, sexual ways is okay, and ir desensitizes them to the idea of having intercourse with adults. It's a problem in Japan, and a reason as to why many people despise otaku.

You know, at this point, that's an excellent idea. Calling for a holler.