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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#6501: Jul 1st 2012 at 8:46:46 PM

Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but where can I find our site's content policy regarding intense violence? Checked the announcement link early in the topic and couldn't find anything regarding that. Reason I ask is because I'm a bit paranoid about Knight Templar esque flagging of works due to violent content being classifed as guru. Where do we draw the line between merely being very violent, gorn, and guru? My concerns lie with works like Higurashi and Umineko. Are works like that safe?

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#6502: Jul 1st 2012 at 8:51:27 PM

Excessive violence itself is not grounds for cutting. Pornographic violence is.

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#6503: Jul 1st 2012 at 8:51:41 PM

Yes, they are safe. P5's purpose is purging pornography and pedo-pandering. Violence does not play into things unless the violence is sexualized.

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magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#6504: Jul 1st 2012 at 8:55:28 PM

Thank you. That's a relief.

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#6505: Jul 1st 2012 at 8:58:15 PM

Guro. And as far as I know, we're only getting rid of things for violence if they're very obviously sexualized guro, and nothing else.

Just something being gory, even to the point of gorn, isn't grounds to cut.

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#6506: Jul 2nd 2012 at 8:05:40 AM

We voted to keep Cupcakes. I feel like that's fairly emblematic of our stance on violence.

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#6507: Jul 2nd 2012 at 8:08:09 AM

Since it's up for rereview:

Re: Ro Kyu Bu:

Ep. 1

Update: Oh for fuck's sake, a grade school brat asks a high schooler "You don't get turned on by little sister maids?" Not leaving a good first impression. Nor is focusing on an abnormally developed grade schooler's breasts. Nor is having the aforementioned brat flip everyone's skirt. Nor is having another one deliberately lift her own skirt at the high schooler. Nor is having a panty shot from this girl who, contrary to her appearance, is older than the high schooler.

Update the second: Really, a shower scene? Complete with groping, and bare-minimum amount of suds over their nipples? Someone please tell me this is just a bad dream induced by my anti-malaria meds.

Update the third: Way to round out the episodes with crotch shots of grade school girls. Good lord. I need a break from this already.

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edited 2nd Jul '12 8:49:09 AM by tdgoodrich1

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6508: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:03:33 AM

I don't think you need to inflict that on yourself goodrich. The P5 already appear to have their minds made up.

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#6510: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:08:00 AM

This was the one ostensibly about basketball, correct? The one people told us was TOTALLY CLEAN AND FREE OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE OMG IT'S ABOUT BASKETBALL? -headdesk-

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#6511: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:13:36 AM

[up]Yup.

There was only one devilhead on the voting queue, so I didn't know exactly where everyone stood. That said, anything else needs looking at?

[down]In what?

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:16:25 AM by tdgoodrich1

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#6513: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:15:37 AM

Here's the stuff up for vote.

Anyone want to talk about something? Anything the P5 members want to vote on? Several things have 2 votes one way or the other already.

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#6514: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:20:00 AM

Don't know if there's much progress to be made on a lot of the stalled discussions. With Martello not yet replaced and the Cat MIA again, P5 is essentially operating with 3 members.

That said, the following works are currently at 2 Devils, 0 Angels:

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:26:59 AM by tdgoodrich1

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#6515: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:23:27 AM

I've mostly been focusing on the last page (works that have been on the queue the longest), but now that there are a few more on the previous pages that have two votes I will try to review those over the course of the week.

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:27:33 AM by Meeble

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#6516: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:25:56 AM

Well, I hope we can finally get a new member soon. Hopefully, things could go a bit quicker.

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#6517: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:27:50 AM

Yeah, things do move a bit slower when we're short-staffed, simply because only having three active members means that every work has to be reviewed by every panel member in order to be cleared off the queue, and if there's any disagreement it won't move.

It's not a big deal, though, and I certainly can understand both Catalogue being busy (I haven't been able to review as many works as I would like for similar reasons... sometimes it can take a few days to properly review works that I feel need it), and the mods wanting to take their time picking a good candidate for the fifth slot. It won't hurt for the work pages in question to sit for a while until we get everything sorted out.

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:28:44 AM by Meeble

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#6518: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:30:36 AM

Conversely, the following are at 2 Angels, 0 Devils

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:43:52 AM by tdgoodrich1

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#6519: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:33:24 AM

I wonder if the guy who said he was going to look at Tales Of MU is lost in his Archive Binge...

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#6520: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:41:41 AM

I think we decided that Unlucky Busty Girl was a TRS issue as opposed to a P5 issue, though I could be getting that mixed up with something else. It doesn't seem like it was cut for P5 related reasons, so this isn't the right channel to decide whether it should be brought back.

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#6521: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:43:57 AM

Got it. Deleted.

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#6522: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:48:44 AM

Yeah, looking at the links for it in the PPPPP thread, it seems like the consensus was that it should be TRS'd to be brought back (if appropriate) instead of P5'd.

Instead of zapping it, I'm inclined to resolve it from the queue with "Not a P5 issue, resolve in Trope Repair Shop". Anyone opposed to that?

edited 2nd Jul '12 9:49:08 AM by Meeble

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#6523: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:50:55 AM

[up]Pick the "resolve" option.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6524: Jul 2nd 2012 at 9:51:21 AM

Sounds good Meeble.

Anyway, as for stuff up for review, the sooner Da Capo and Sekien no Inganock get their final angel heads the better. Both are harmless.

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#6525: Jul 2nd 2012 at 10:03:56 AM

Inu X Boku SS can get a pass. I've read it an aside from the female lead being a short adult who gets no fanservice, there's nothing there. She's a short Asian woman, like millions of other short Asian women. She looks older from the front.

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