Who would win? (Comic book edition)

You're wrong about Gray Hulk. He starts off weaker and gains strength at a slower rate, but there's no limit.

The trouble with Grundy is that massive strength variation is built into character. Usually he's weaker than Grey Hulk, and he'd easily be outsmarted. As long as Grundy is on one of his strongest lives Hulk should win.

The Beast (when he was losing his intelligence) vs depowered Storm.

Since depowered Storm is basically a normal human while Beast is a monstrous predator, that one goes to Beast.

G2 Megatron vs Shattered Glass Optimus Prime.

hm...

Luke Cage vs. Gorilla Grodd.

If Grodd uses his mental powers, Luke doesn't have particularly good defenses against that. Our hero's best chance is taunting Grodd into going strictly hand to hand, where he can use his surprising density to advantage.

Punisher vs The Thing?

depends. how many hours of sustained gunfire can Thing's skin take?

... aaand now I have the mental image of Thing casually going about his day as a non-stop hail of gunfire ricochet off him without giving more than a passing indication that he's even aware of the bullets flying all around.

Thing: "Huh. Sandwich is a bit crunchier than usual... Wouldja keep it down, Matchstick!... sheeze, the stuff that passes for music these days..."

The Thing. Handily. Castle's arsenal rarely goes above military grade and often not that much above that of the thugs he fights, while Grimm regularly absorbs damage from Dr. Doom, Annihilus, and other planetary, or even galactic, threats. Contrast The Punisher, who got torn to pieces by Daken.

Castle, like Batman, tends to get really overrated in things like this.

Assuming we haven't done this one already, Thanos vs Darkseid.

without the Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos is a duck. with it, he just might win.

Ultimate Comics!Electro vs Livewire.

Ultimate Electro is made out of electricity. Livewire eats electricity. The fight would last about as long as it took for Electro to touch her while he was doing his 'energy being' gig, and it would be Dazzler vs. Klaw all over again (for the uninitiated, Dazzler absorbs sound- involuntarily, I think- to power up. Klaw is made out of sound. He tried to grab her. It ended poorly for him).

Lex Luthor vs. Mr. Fantastic in a Deus ex Gadgeta-off (well, that and trying to beat one another into submission, but you just know that if those two went at it, it would turn into a supergenius pissing match...).

Mr. Fantastic. Lex is super-genius. Reed is the guy super-geniuses go to when they're stumped.

Thanos (with Infinity Gauntlet) Vs. 616!Mad Jim Jaspers

edited 20th Jun '14 12:26:53 PM by Anteres

Thanos. Easily. Jaspers has the reality manipulation but Thanos has the Infinity Gauntlet. Too easy.

In terms of a gang war for control over Gotham…

Penguin, Black Mask, or Sal Maroni?

Penguin: He has access to super weapons, and Batman is likely to aide him simply so that there will be a bit of stability in Gotham and so that the top mob is someone who Batman can manipulate/who is occasionally willing to play ball.

Glory (from the latest series) vs. Wonder Woman.

edited 22nd Jun '14 12:47:28 AM by TheConductor

Wonder Woman. They get into a tussle, Wonder Woman does a leg sweep and snaps poor Glory's legs off at the ankle.

That and Diana is probably well versed in pancration. Glory's impossible figure (even by comic book standards, seeing as how I think her back is permanently in that arched shape) would be nothing but a disadvantage in a dedicated grapple. Her spine would snap like a fricking twig under all that leverage.

Now for the most important matchup: Howard The Duck vs. Donald Duck (Don Rosa edition)

edited 24th Jun '14 4:47:34 PM by Frishman

Generation 2 Megatron forced Optimus Prime to become Battle Convoy. He would probably kill Shattered Glass Optimus, who displayed no such ability.

Darkseid wins if it is before crisis on infinite Earths or, I suppose, after Final Crisis. Anything in between then is trounced by Thanos, especially Jim Starlin Darkseid.

I think Donald is roughly the size of a man and Howard the size of a duck, so Donald.

Cobweb vs Action Girl

Howard is as tall as Donald, being such a shameless knockoff he had to start wearing pants so Disney didn't sue Marvel.

In an actual fight, I'd have to go with Penguin too. Sal Maroni never really does his own dirty work, and while Black Mask does from time to time in general Penguin has been shown to be a lot better at it.

In a gang war, I'd actually give it to Black Mask - while Penguin is good at gaining power when he wants to, he tends to be more about hands off control while Black Mask prefer directly and forcefully amassing influence, so in a situation like that Penguin would probably put up a good but Black Mask would just overpower him.

Prometheus vs Taskmaster.

given Taskmaster's abilities, he should be able to figure out Prometheus' style early on in the fight.

though, if Prometheus hits him with any of his more dangerous gadgets (or just flat-out hits him), it'll be all over.

Terry McGinnis!Batman vs. Spider-Man 2099. (bear in mind that Spidey 2099 doesn't have a Spider-Sense.)

edited 24th Jul '14 8:55:20 AM by crimsonstorm15

To make this interesting, the fight takes place in Los Angeles so neither has home field advantage. Also, Bruce Wayne is in hospital and Lyla's battery is dead, so Terry and Miguel are fighting on their own. And I have to say, when I started looking them up, it amazed me just how evenly matched they are.

Spidey's mutation gives him physical abilities in the low superhuman range, whereas Batman (from what I've watched so far) just has high mundane (by comic standards) stats. However, his suit does seem to enhance his abilities somewhat, so it seems that the costumed heroes have about equal stats.

Both of their capes allow them to glide, so they're also equal there.

Batman's optics approximately match Spider-Man's enhanced eyes for seeing in the dark and seeing infra-red; this renders Spider-Man's cloaking device ineffective. However, Batman's stealth suit also masks IR radiation, meaning Spider-Man won't be able to see it.

Thus, I figure Spider-Man will give Batman a run for his money, but ultimately Batman's superior stealth gives him the edge.

Let's mix it up with multiples. Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman vs Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man.

The big three of DC don't do a whole lot of teamfighting together, with the exception of Batman/Superman. Thor, Iron Man, and Cap have an extensive history of battling threats together, on the other hand, so they know how to work with each other to accomplish tasks, and Captain America is a far greater tactical genius than even Batman is (Super-Soldier serum enhanced Cap's mental faculties to peak human as well as physical capabilities, and he devoted his newfound peak intelligence to studying combat tactics).

Thor is, ignoring the Marvel vs. DC comics, more than capable of handling Superman by himself, what with the magic lightning and the magic hammer and the magic ability to teleport Superman to the magic realm of Alfheim and just leave him there for the magic Elves to rip him to shreds with the magic.

Superman is vulnerable to magic, is what I'm getting at, and Thor is pretty much made of the stuff.

Batman would be reduced to a pile of broken bones relatively quickly by Captain America's CQC continually throwing him into Iron Man's repulsor blasts, which removes two out of DC's big three.

And then Wonder Woman has a three-on-one battle against the god of thunder, the world's greatest soldier, and a walking Third-world army.

And I actually don't know who would win at that point. WW is pretty much on par with Thor physically and training-wise, and without the weakness to magic that Supes has or the being made of squishy, squishy meat that Batman has she can hold him off until one of them gets tired. If she can keep him off of her long enough, she can take out Iron Man and Cap as those two always have trouble fighting Thor and then it's just a one-on-one that will probably end in hot god-on-god action. If she can't, then the trio's superior teamwork can eventually take her down.

Silver Surfer vs. Silver Age Superman (or Battle of the Gods)

edited 29th Jul '14 12:46:09 PM by Frishman

Silver Surfer. They're very closely matched in terms of abilities, with one crucial advantage on the Surfer's side - he could easily create Kryptonite radiation or red sun radiation or both, making it pretty unlikely for Superman to beat him.

Who would win, Thor or the Kingdom Come Superman?

Gotta go with Thor. Mjolnir is a magic item and Supes has always been vulnerable to magic.

All of the Ninja Turtles vs Captain America?

...the Kingdom Come version of Superman is way more powerful than the regular version and is no longer vulnerable to magic. Just sayin'.

And Captain America wins for sure.

Hulk or Doomsday?

edited 12th Aug '14 10:43:55 AM by resetlocksley

Standard Hulk vs. Standard Doomsday? Hulk wins their first fight, as in a slugfest Hulk is just going to keep getting stronger until he's strong enough, and Doomsday doesn't have any of the exotic powers that will bypass it. Second fight is more of a toss-up, since Doomsday "evolves" to be able to beat whatever killed him the last time.

Doomsday wins.

Mexicans who beat Silver Surfer◊ vs. the thugs who mugged Darkseid◊

edited 12th Aug '14 1:55:29 PM by VeryMelon