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raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#11026: Jan 23rd 2020 at 11:43:52 AM

Angry Joe has a style that people can find annoying since he ends up screaming a lot of times, though one thing that I can say in his favour is that he’s also being much more outspoken about microtransactions ever since Star Wars Battlefront II (2016) and has been lashing out against sports game for also indulging in stuff like that.

Funnily, it was because of Joe that I found about Jim’s channel when he mentioned him and his review of the Slaughtering Grounds on one of his worst games lists.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#11027: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:38:00 PM

Holy crap, that game was four years ago. Time flies.

It's been 3000 years…
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#11028: Jan 23rd 2020 at 1:39:41 PM

And since then it’s only released 5 new heroes.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#11029: Jan 24th 2020 at 1:22:57 AM

Since people mentioned Angry Joe in here. Joe from what I have seen isn't the issue, his fanbase is. While I don't agree with his opinions on some games the guys seems pretty chill in general and is more on the side of the left gaming controversy wise. He's very anti-corp, pro-women in gaming, and so on. His fanbase just seems to consist of alt-righters in serious denial whom throw hissyfits any time he shares his opinion.

The only thing that did make him look a bit odd recently is his comment on that stupid gender Cyberpunk 2077 controversy and that seems to of been out of genuine confusion considering what he said after.

While I don't like Joe as much anymore as a reviewer as I have seemed to of lost my taste for his angry schtick he does seem like a okay guy.

Although rereading through these posts I was not aware of his jabs towards the Metoo movement or feminists which I find...really strange considering how he supported feminists in the past?

Edited by Wispy on Jan 24th 2020 at 1:31:44 AM

Krory21 Since: Jan, 2019
#11030: Jan 24th 2020 at 6:10:13 AM

Joe is dumb. I don't mean that in a malicious way, but he comes across as a friendly, well meaning guy who just isn't that bright and has no interest in educating himself beyond what he reads on twitter. You can see the other two guys he does his shows with get exasperated and try to reel him in all the time, because they have done the reading, they know he's wrong, but they don't want to contradict him on camera.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#11031: Jan 24th 2020 at 6:16:32 AM

He's got good taste in superheroes though at least. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#11032: Jan 24th 2020 at 6:26:26 AM

[up][up]Well, shit, that's the best summation of Joe's personality that I've ever seen anybody make. I stopped watching him precisely because of that.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#11033: Jan 24th 2020 at 8:18:31 AM

His stance on feminism seems to boil down to both finding feminists oversensitive but also agreeing with their goals in the grander sense, which while annoying to listen to isn't bad nor uncommon. And I appreciate his efforts in bringing awareness to Puerto Rican issues after all the tragedies and government negligence. I don't doubt that Joe is an overall decent guy on the whole, I just don't find his schtick entertaining anymore. It's the childishness more than the politics that put me off, and at worst his attitude comes off as crassly populist and thus it attracts a lot of shitty people, but I won't begrudge anyone here who still enjoys his content.

[up][up][up][awesome], and [up] agreed.

Edited by AlleyOop on Jan 24th 2020 at 11:26:34 AM

darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
#11034: Jan 24th 2020 at 8:20:47 AM

It's why out of a lot of critics and pundents on YT, I prefer Jim's approach. With his antics, you have a good idea what he does and does not take seriously with how over the top he usually gets. But when he has a point to make, you can easily tell what's an act and what he's genuinely concerned about. With AJ, getting mad all the time is his shtik, and it feels really insincere to me.

"No will to break."
raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#11035: Jan 24th 2020 at 8:42:24 AM

I feel like Angry Joe is like an entry-level reviewer for people that are starting on videogames whereas Jim's touch is more refined, if that makes sense.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#11036: Jan 24th 2020 at 8:44:18 AM

and then you've got yahtzee,who've I been listening to since he had proper music

New theme music also a box
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#11037: Jan 24th 2020 at 8:59:05 AM

Upon reflection, Jim is the only "angry critic man" I have on my sub box at all at this point. In terms of videogames, i never got into angry Joe's show, and I've always found yahtzees persona grating (I say that to make a distinction between that and Ben croshaw the actual person, who i don't know much about).

raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#11038: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:04:57 AM

Yahtzee's problem is that he's amusingly more angry than Angry Joe but instead of being theatrical or hysterical he uses sharp, barbed venom-laced words.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#11039: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:11:25 AM

Also I freely admit my impression is based on content I watched years ago, so maybe this isn't accurate anymore, but I feel like when you compare the two Jim only really gets all that indignant when it's something actually anti-consumer/immoral or otherwise something inexcusably badly made. It's not hard to find him praising various games.

By contrast almost any praise Yahtzee gives in most of the reviews I watched felt backhanded at best.

That's not to say that you're obligated to have something positive to say every time, especially if it's something you genuinely don't enjoy, but it gets to a point of Accentuate the Negative that I just don't really enjoy at this point.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Jan 24th 2020 at 1:12:36 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#11040: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:11:30 AM

I've watched Zero Punctuation since forever, and one of the best parts is the brilliant metaphors he comes up with, along with the contractual swearing. ZP is constrained by the format: MS Paint sprites on a yellow background and a six minute runtime. Jim shows real footage from the games and has a lot more time to go into details, which I appreciate but can't always sit through at once.

One format is good for quick impressions and barrels of laughs; the other is good if I want to dive in and get properly angry at things.

It's kind of ironic that Yahtzee complains that nobody likes it when he's nice to games, yet his rare positive reviews number among the highest viewed. Perhaps it's a scarcity thing.

The main difference for me is that I can put on ZP and let it run in the background, soaking up the humor even though I've watched each video five or six times already. With Jim, one viewing is enough and I need to pay more attention so I don't miss things.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 24th 2020 at 12:14:36 PM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#11041: Jan 24th 2020 at 9:12:56 AM

He's offensively amusing,blunt but you get the point where others would pussy foot around issues (mostly,anyway)

New theme music also a box
Dhiruxide Since: Dec, 2016
#11042: Jan 25th 2020 at 9:58:45 AM

I feel Joe lost his "angry" shtick. He seems more disinterested or low-power these days. He also doesn't do as much game reviews as he used to. He was much more fun and entertaining in first 4-5 years and after that it's like he's developed a growing apathy

I do like the skits but I wish for the old days of when he reviewed something like Ride to Hell: Retribution. One of the best stuff he ever put out, I love rewatching it annually.

The Other Joe is more interesting

As for Yahtzee, while I wouldn't take his advice about retro-styled FP Ses much (it's his DUSK video that made me roll my eyes so fucking hard.) he's in general alright and has an awesome way with words.

[down][down]Let's agree to disagree about that, shall we?

Edited by Dhiruxide on Jan 25th 2020 at 8:31:42 PM

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
And? And? And? And? AND?
#11043: Jan 25th 2020 at 10:38:48 AM

Maybe if certain modern youtubers dropped the ableist language I'd broaden my horizons more, but I don't ever see that happening.

I'm quite confident in my shitposting you know
Superdark33 The dark Mage of the playground from Playgrounds and Adventures Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
The dark Mage of the playground
#11044: Jan 25th 2020 at 11:20:32 AM

Aimless anger and hostility is just not funny anymore, if it ever was truly funny.

raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#11045: Jan 25th 2020 at 12:16:55 PM

I would say it's kind of generational, there was a time when being openly hostile was funny but currently is seen as, well, immature or anti-social.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#11046: Jan 25th 2020 at 1:14:00 PM

I mean, critic with a descriptive gimmick is how it used to be, isn't it? The Angry Video Game Nerd, The Cynical Brit, The Angry Joe Show hell, even Francis to a certain degree.

Edited by GoldenKaos on Jan 25th 2020 at 9:14:16 AM

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
And? And? And? And? AND?
#11047: Jan 26th 2020 at 6:33:33 AM

Ooooh I almost forgot, did someone mention Yahtzee? Because even tho I have some issues with him I still adore his "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything tee hee hee" jingle thanks to how applicable it is even to this day.

I'm quite confident in my shitposting you know
VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Calendar enthusiast
#11048: Jan 26th 2020 at 10:12:36 PM

Jim hasn't done a Games Industry Bullshit on Nintendo's refund court case in Germany and Norway, so I'm gong to call that's what this week's Jimquisition will be about.

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TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#11049: Jan 27th 2020 at 2:07:41 AM

Jim's been dealing with a lot of back pain this last week, so he hasn't been able to do as much work. He's mentioned so on twitter.

He's also recently mentioned that apparently Digital Homicide have resurfaced, because of course they did.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#11050: Jan 27th 2020 at 3:35:33 AM

Digital Homicide is the "gift" that keeps on giving.


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